I attacked my talon valve early this morning…
…before I even had a cup of coffee 😯
You know your addicted when you go to your airguns before your morning “Joe” 😆
Anyway, I followed the “sticky” Talon valve mod by Mike V and Robert…
I went into this knowing that if I “F#@ked it up” I would buy a condor valve stem.
I put the stem in my vise and slowly/carefully (well, as careful as you can wiht a hand held drill) bored it out to .125″ I don’t recommend this method, it is ideal to use a press as instructed in the “sticky”.
Next I deburred then smeared my .125″ bit with a gritty compound and ran it through the valve stem a few times. Then I went to Q-tips with a medium and finally a fine FLITZ paste
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I polished up the top hat where it meets the breech/bolt and I did some other minor polishing…
look at the picture below to see the difference between the condor valve spring retainer and the Talon spring retainer. The Condor spring is much softer than the Talon spring.
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Can someone please tell me what size O-rings I will need to replace the ones that were on this valve? This is my first time taking apart an Airforce Valve. I have plenty of O-rings…but I want to make sure I am using the right ones. Thanks
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Hi Grit. I did my Talon valve about a year ago. I had a selection of metric and numbered drill bits and, using the next larger size, I would just screw it into the valve. I kept going 1 size larger till I got to 3 mm. I held the valve and drill bit in my fingers and just kept going a size larger. Then I gave it a polish also.
My modified Talon valve was shooting 22 cal Kodiaks at 940fps. I can’t remember the top hat or power wheel settings.
Mike,
It’s hard to tell from the picture..is that the same dish as mine or is it opened more??
And Air force told me a few years back that this wouldn’t help! 😆 😉 <a href="
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Yeah, I am going to get on board with that reg as well. I’ve always wanted a gauge on my condor anyway…this will be an added benefit 😎
Joe,
I use mine quite a bit. Before I was scared to death to take off that valve, and would not.
I had heard too many horror stories about pipe wrench teeth marks and hammering those valves with punches.
Now it is a magazine wrap in the vice and that tool.
As usual if it comes from Jim or Tagdagger or Subsonnic, it works.
That is why that etacreg will be a hot seller, faith in things known.
Roachcreek
AHHHHHhahahah that is toooooo cooooool!!!!!!!
You made my day!!!!
Jim
Jim’s VRT! Hanging on my work bench in a place of HONOR! 😉
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Sounds great 80 you should be at around that for speeds I would think! Nice of you to take time with the kids I know I have some grand kids and we always shoot when they come over one of them that lives close by wants to fix up an old crosman pump air pistol so I told him I can help him with that paint it up and it can be his to keep here and shoot until he gets older he can have it, I like helping them out and watching them shoot targets he likes the tin cans more action I guess!!
How did you dish out the spring retainer looks nice 😉
Let us know how she shoots when done if I recall I gained about 100 fps
Thanks for the advice Eddie. I always like it when you guys, “tell me what to do”. I’m still wet behind the ears you know.
I can’t take credit for the valve spring retainer, hell I’d never dish out anything that perfectly…it came that way in my stock Condor valve. I only polished it up. I attacked all the parts again and now they are mirror like.
I did some 60 yard soda can shooting in the woods with my company tonight and four neighborhood kids. I used my AAA condor bottle and was sending JSB exact 16 grainers 990 fps. My SS is a laser. I was stacking them in the same hole at 20 yards. We used that and my BSA Scorpion…hopefully those kids will drive their dads nuts and they will call me wanting to drop some coin. I’ll start em off with a nice custom 22xx. I doubt they will drop the kind of coin that it takes to come over to the DARKSIDE 😈
I’m hoping my Talon valve gets me 900 fps with the 16 gr JSB’s. I’ll keep you posted.
I’m just a student learning from the Many Masters here on TAG. Although all the local airsoft kids around here think I’m some sort of God 😎
How on earth did you get your valve off without tearing it up with a pipewrench, channel locks, and finally a vice-grip?
No disassembly picts of you taking it off the bottle…blasphemy
LOL
BTW nice work.
I noticed the KG product. I am in love with their carbon remover !!!
Regards,
Jim (maker of the VRT in case anyone forgot 😆 )
Sorry Jim, I figured your VRT is a “household name” by now…I can’t say enough about how easy it makes removal. The vale on the Talon tank came off much easier. Only a few whacks. Thanks again.
Joe somehow I new you were going to do this, a while back I talked to you when I was doing an SS I had did the same thing you are doing had a drill press it is a bit easier, you can pick up a small drill press for not much money for small projects like that. Also not trying to tell you what or how to do what your are doing, boy that was a mouth full! Maybe you allready did this but take a dowel rod like 5/16 or so sand down one end to fit in your valve you drilled out don’t have to be perfect then put some polishing compound on the the small dowel end and put the other end in your drill chuck and polish away! you can hold the valve in your hand while you do it this will polish it up nice. I glad you got into your valve I think the hardest part of the valve is getting it out of the bottle! But I know you have the tool for that seen a post a while back where you got set up for great tool 😆
How did you dish out the spring retainer looks nice 😉
Let us know how she shoots when done if I recall I gained about 100 fps
You are making me edgy now with the idea you can do it I can do it.
Hey 80 Grit,
How on earth did you get your valve off without tearing it up with a pipewrench, channel locks, and finally a vice-grip?
No disassembly picts of you taking it off the bottle…blasphemy
LOL
BTW nice work.
I noticed the KG product. I am in love with their carbon remover !!!
Regards,
Jim (maker of the VRT in case anyone forgot 😆 )
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My modified Talon valve was shooting 22 cal Kodiaks at 940fps. I can’t remember the top hat or power wheel settings.
Nice! That is in an 18″ barrel, right!
Yeah, I know I should have slowly increased the drill bit sizes, but I just went for it with the .125″. I am glad I did not destroy it…well, I’ll let you know after it gets whacked a few times by the hammer 👿 Hopefully it wont cave in 😯