If you have to choose 1 Edgun
Hello-
with all the excitement all (you guys) having I want to be on the bandwagon too.
For those who have the Edgun, if you can only have one or your go-to-Edgun. WHich one would it be?
.25 or .22, bullpup, standard or long? and does the long feel that long or not?
Also, is there any accuratcy diff between the standard and long at long distance or just the standard one used mroe air?
thanks,
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– me too, – but in a multishot version I think !!! 😀
If I had to choose only one. …. .22 standard.
Kazz Wrote:
A Edgun standard in cal .223 that shoot 41 grainers at 300m/s
I don’t think that the reg could be turned up enough to get 300m/s out of a .223 standard shooting 41 grain bullets.
How about a .224 long version shooting 35 grain slugs at 290m/s?
I’ve got the stuff ordered.
If I could choose?
A Edgun standard in cal .223 that shoot 41 grainers at 300m/s
🙂
Now? A .22 standard.
I just got an R3 .25 standard-haven’t been able to do more than run 3 pellets thru it. I prefer the standard length. I’ve got both standard and long R2/2.5 .22s, and will be selling the long because I don’t shoot it. The extra length and weight conflict with the short/lite bullpup concept for me, maybe because I shot the standard for a year before the long arrived. I was going to use the Long as a heavy pellet hammer, but I never went there. The 18gr does it for my needs. I just flat wanted the .25, no good rationalization at all.
I think the only downside to the standard length is reduced shot count. If there is a difference in accuracy, I can’t find it with my skill level. The long .22 doesn’t seem much quieter than the standard; don’t know about the .25 long. Anybody in South Texas have one? We’ll compare rifles.
Jeff
I had a .22 standaard , now .22 short , the shorter the better 😀
Thanks for responding Kiba. I see OG’s post answered my question, we must have posted about the same time – I hadn’t seen it before I posted. Oh well. I thank this forum and all who provide.
I weighed both the .25 Standard and 25 Long. The standard weighed about 6.73 pounds and the Long weighs about 7.35 pounds.
One thing that also weighed on my decision towards the Long version was the additional velocity gain due to having a longer barrel. Seems the EDgun doesn’t lack for power in either model but I’ll be interested to see what those maximum velocities are with 25.4 gr JSB pellets both guns.
Or even heavier .31 gr H&N Barracudas that were shooting very well in my .25 Long today.
After adjusting the hammer spring tension 1/8 turn looser than delivered to get the extreme spread over an entire fill under control my .25 long managed 97 shots on one string and 101 on a second string from 200-90 bar spitting out JSB Kings at 885 +/- 4 fps. From when the gun falls off the regulator at around 90 bar/100 shots out to 125 shots the velocity gradually tapers off to about 850fps at shot 125.
Very impressive in my opinion and part of the reason I love my long .25 so much. What it does to ground squirrels is the other reason I really like it; the added knockdown power and louder “thwop” at impact compared to the .22 is very satisfying. 😈
Unfortunately the added noise of the .25 long startles the horses more than the .22 when I’m doing squirrel control around the stables; that’s yet another reason I want to keep the quieter .22 version on hand. While the .22 gets the horses to flick their ears and perk their heads up to see where the noise comes from the .25 will get them to startle more and stomp & pace nervously.
OG’s post about the air rod lifespan having owned a .25 R2.5 cleared things up. I vaguely remembered one of Ed’s old posts soon after releasing the .25s about reduced component life at the higher power level of the .25; however OG’s experience with 20,000 shots through his .25 at ~890fps seems to indicate a very long component life at ~44fpe.
Kiba & OG thanks for all the useful info and comparison.
A few more question:
Is the .25 standard available yet?
What the average shot counts do you get with the .25 long?
Kiba, thanks for the comparison. Having the R3 .22 standard I am interested in the .25 long and was interested myself in the differences. Thanks for sharing. I have put to the question in an earlier post as to whether or not the .25 R3’s have different valving than the .22 in hopes of hearing some feed back but no one commented so perhaps unknown at this time. I hope that they are beefier and longer lasting. Perhaps Ed will read this thread and post or someone with knowledge will.
My R3 25 long would be the gun that I would keep if I could only have one Edgun.
That may change when I get my R3 25 standard. Ed has said that the R3 25 standard should get at least 40 regulated shots at 915 fps. I am thinking that I will be able to get 50 regulated shots at 880-890.
Ed said that the R2.5 25 longs would break the air valve rods a lot sooner than the 22 would. He set the R2.5 25 longs up to shoot JSB 25.4 grain pellets at 1040 fps. I turned mine down to 950 and broke a rod at around 7500-8000 shots.
Put a new rod in and turned the speed down to 890 and I don’t remember breaking another rod. That rod has around 20,000 shots on it and it is still going strong.
AFAIK, the regulator, air valve housing and air valve rod are the same in the R2.5 and R3 versions. Ed has said that he is working on a new air valve setup that will start shipping this summer.
Having owned a standard .22 for a while and having a long .25 in hand for a week now makes for some thinking…
I really like the feel/balance, shot count, and power of the .25 long. The slight extra weight isn’t too big of a deal IMO when doing “walkaround” type hunting.
The .22 standard is a little more quick to point than the long variant and is quieter than the .25. It’s also a little lighter if that matters.
Accuracy of both rifles is excellent. The .25 does hit critters with more authority. If using the rifle primarily for hunting the .25 would be my caliber of choice.
However, if follow Ed’s cue and use the rifle from the confines of a vehicle the long version of the rifle is much more cumbersome than the standard length; that extra 5.8″ isn’t much out in the open but it’s much more tricky to manage while sitting in a vehicle. The standard length version is much more handy to get in and out of a window quickly.
The .25 is overkill for backyard-distance target practice (53Y max for my yard) and critter-control IMO unless you have a very large yard. The power and noise level is simply more than required for that situation in my opinion. The .25 is much harder on target backstops and the noise of both the rifle discharging and pellet impact is more noticeable to the neighbors; it is legal for me to discharge an air rifle in my area and my neighbors are OK with it but they did notice that the .25 was noisier than the .22. The .22 standard is my go to “backyard gun” right now.
For an all around gun if I had to choose just one it would probably be a standard length .22– even though the long .25 is currently my favorite. While I really like the long .25 it has a few more of my own “usage restrictions” than the standard .22. The standard .22 is a great blend of a compact package with accuracy, good shot count, enough power, and low noise.
A standard length .25 might be a viable “one gun” option as well but not having owned one I’m not sure what kind of shot count on a fill is achievable or how the noise level is given the same muzzle energy but decreased moderator volume compared to the long .25. I’m interesting in hearing the user reports once the standard length .25s start arriving; I’m very interested in shot count per fill & noise level. If the standard length .25 could deliver ~50 shots per fill and the noise level was comparable to the .25 long I’d consider changing my standard length .22 order to a .25.
It’s also worth mentioning the issue of valve life; I recall Ed stating much shorter valve life of the .25 vs the .22 in the R2.5 versions as everything was designed for .22 at ~32ft-lb power levels– I’m not sure what has been altered in the .25 R3 or what the expected lifespan of the components are. Knowing Ed’s continuous revisions I’m sure it’s been addressed in the .25 R3.
You can’t go wrong with any version IMO– some are just better suited to specific tasks. That’s why I ordered both a .25 long and .22 standard. I haven’t decided if I’ll keep just one or the pair but at least I’ll have the option. 😀
I am willing to wait to get just one. Yes I will be satified just one because, I will have no more blood left to sell or my another kidney to sell in the black market.
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– me too, – but in a multishot version I think !!! 😀
keeping my fingers crossed for that multishot conversion kit that ED is working on.