Is this presidential material?
Looks like shoe shine boy is at it again.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/16/obama-draws-bow-japanese-emperor/?test=faces
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I don’t think any politicians have the ability for self reflection… If they had such an ability they would not be politicians… 😉
Although it could be said that IF politicians had any type of self-reflection or knowledge of cause & effect we would probably still have the towers in NY and many, many more freedoms than we have right now…
We as a country, run by corrupt politicians have done this to us vand since I can’t control Washington I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the fucks in Washington. Just imagine if Bush didn’t fuck everything up so much we would not have the president we have today… Blame Obama (Obaka 😆 ) all you want, the conservatives lost their way and now we got this crap…
Personally I think Obama is Bush, he has continued all the spying on citizens, all the war, all the handouts, everything that Bush started Obama has kept going. I think he “bow” is as fake as he is and his healthcare reform is merely a way to grease the palms of his supporters just like Bushy did with the war…
After all the far right equals the far left in ignorance and fear. Policy made from this position is not just or even an attempt at change, it’s more of the same, protect thy friends and grow rich together from the coffers of income taxes.
If the citizens of both sides in this red v blue war don’t wake the fuck up and join together, we are sure to become Mexico really fast. Both Bush and Obama want total governmental control and both have put forth policy to reinforce this… Fuck, Bush did NOTHING to protect us from the attacks except for ignoring critical information pertaining to the attack…
IF the so called right wanted to stop some of this stuff the left is passing why not make a stink? Instead they have just not showed up for work, sure they are collecting huge bank, wtf are they doing to stop any of this stuff, nothing. No work, no fucking pay.
The citizens of the USA are being played off of each other, forget race tensions & riots, red v blue has destroyed this country in less than eight years.
So bitch all you want about the ‘bow’, just remember, divided we fall.
I’ll give you 75… 😆
LOL now we’re negotiating! and that cartoon is hilarious.
I wonder if obama feels bad for some of the things we’ve done in the past and if he is he shouldn’t be running the country.
I was brutal when I was younger and had no mercy on anyone and at 5’10” 250 and a strong wrestling background I did some things to people that I’m not proud of even though they had it coming.
When I finally grew up I have tried to make it up to everyone in everyway possible and it’s caused me to get ripped off so many times I can’t remember them all and also caused me tons of grief.
The point is that you can’t have someone that feels we owe everybody an apology running the country or trying to makeup some of the wrong moves we’ve made as a country, or anything that we did in the past that we’re sorry for has to be forgotten or we will leave ourselves open to opportunists.
It’s also a bad idea to have a president that is in awe of a muslim king and I bet he’s the butt of many jokes throughout the middleeast.
90 degrees?
I’ll give you 75… 😆
Love it! Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing their “Obaka”
Well said dust and how about him bowing to king abdullah of saudi arabia?
In the middle east even when weak people or countries will put on a front to appear strong and it’s an area notorious for taking kindness for weakness.
I think obama should start off by paying the state of illinois back for 2 years of service that he robbed them of and he was out campaigning when he was supposed to be working for illinois.
He sold us on how smart he is which I am starting to seriously doubt and he says “ah” more than any president I’ve ever heard which is usually the sign of brain damage. Listen to him when he talks and if you take a basic public speaking course the first thing you’re taught is not to say “ah” next time he speaks count the “ahs” you’ll be amazed.
This was on TV yesterday. They said that many people in the US were talking bad about Obama, and the reason they said, because these people always talk bad about Obama. So much for in-depth reporting on Japanese TV. Akihito has, and will never bow to anyone in the political forum, because he is the head of Japan. In the same way, Obaka, as my students call him (it means idiot), is the head of the US, and that puts them on equal terms. This is just another thing that backfired on Obama. On the surface it seems like he was trying to be culturally sensitive (Japanese bow), but 5 minutes of research would have taught him better. Pacific Rim politician who bow in their own country don’t bow to leaders in other countries. My understanding is Obaka is the first president to ever bow to anyone. I know that him being half-black is a first for a president, but being the first to violate 200 year precedents is not the kind of change I can believe in. I have to agree with a previous statement that Obaka needs a PR Czar.
How is a college educated, former Senator, and now President of the U.S. supposed to know about all these damn rules. 🙄 Maybe he should have appointed a cultural awareness Czar along with the other thirty or so he has.
First off he didn’t dip his head he was bent in a 90 degree angle which isn’t the same as dipping his head.
It’s not custom for national leaders to bow to each other in japanese culture.
It’s not custom for national leaders to bow to each other in arabic culture.
He might have meant well but it looks like we are weak or that we don’t have a clue what the host countries customs and policies are.
If it was custom why didn’t japans leader bow back and I’ve read 4 articles on the subject and they all say that obama was the only one that bowed.
Same with king abdullah he didn’t make any gesture of respect to obama and it just looks bad.
Some people develop prejudices by watching their community be taken over by 1 million muslims that are rude and tell me to get the hell out of their campground or give americans the finger when driving through dearborn.
I love asian people they are some of the finest people on the planet with strong traditions and customs which I appreciate and if it was protocol for obama to bow I would be all for it same with in saudi arabia if it was the proper thing to do by bowing I would be all for it and defending what obama did but it was not the correct move he’s not a fan he’s the president of the united states.
I guess the bleeding hearts will have to be displaced by muslims to really know what it means to be fucked by the koran. Same with illegal immigrants they have no rights and should be treated as such like get the fuck out of my way immigrant that’s correct.
As for hispanics I have plenty of hispanic friends and one is with the border patrol he feels the exact same way as I do most hard working LEGAL immigrants.
It is our desperate attempt to accomodate the world that has us in the position we are in now and soon it won’t be our country at all because we had our traditions and customs which are slowly being changed or taken away so we don’t offend foreigners.
I think anyone wanting citizenship should have to serve time in the military prove you want to call this country home instead it’s americans that fight to keep sissies safe.
Believe it or not black and white people have the most in common out of everybody if they could ever just stop and think it over we share the same goals and have the same basic core values.
It’s pretty bad when 4th 5th and 6th generation americans are forced to leave dearborn due to threats and property damage, intimidation tactics and they wanted to make it miserable for americans so they would leave which worked great since we couldn’t fight back without getting in trouble for picking on the poor muslims.
It is their responsibility to assimilate into our traditions and customs not the other way around and every other nationality had to do it so why now is it the other way around.
Actually it’s both
“The duration and inclination of the bow is proportionate to the elevation of the person you’re addressing.”
http://matadorstudy.com/10-japanese-customs-you-must-know-before-a-trip-to-japan/
“The Japanese bow when they meet and part from one another (when Westerners would use a handshake), to express gratitude, to show deference to superiors, and in many other social situations. The type of bow depends on the relationship and social or professional ranking of the people involved.”
http://www.jobmonkey.com/teaching/asia/html/customs_in_japan.html
“When bowing to someone of higher social status, a deeper, longer bow indicates respect. Conversely, a small head nod is casual and informal. However, most Japanese do not expect foreigners to know proper bowing rules and so a nod of the head is usually sufficient.”
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2000.html
I lived in Japan for six years and never bowed or shaked anybody’s hand for a simple head nod was sufficient. Why? I befriended a Japanese guy who shared a common interest of RC planes. He taught me a lot about customs and culture. He advised me to stay away from bowing as I don’t my status to everyone else in Japan. Get it wrong and you run the risk of offending someone. Don’t try to shake someone’s hand either, awkward 😳
It is considered etiquette, not subservience.
One dips their heads in Japan as a greeting… In America we just say “Get the fuck out of my country you immigrent.”
Lots of people on the ‘right’ bow to an imaginary idea all the time… To me that is just as odd if not more odd and way more fucked up…
So what one person thinks as odd another may think of as normal. And what one thinks as normal another may find odd…
Just means that some people were raised with prejudices. Fault your parents not others.[/list]
It is a custom and has been for a very long time. I once did business with a Japanese Vice President from Marubeni Komatsu and we shook hands and I bowed. It was his place of power (work) not mine so I was the visitor. Therefore, the onus was on me to bow. It had nothing to do with subservience and everything to do with it being a warm greeting. As usual, the Obama haters are blowing this out of proportion and are looking at any excuse to bash the guy. Personally, I think that he is way out of his depth and have no love for him, but to paint him as a bumbling and obedient fool is inaccurate. Moreover, the choice of him bowing was just that; his choice. There is not fast protocol either way, and I am sure that he figured “when in Rome”…
Just like the left, anything can be rationalized.
You don’t shake hands and bow at the same time.
The person who bows the lowest is the humblest.
Bowing to 90° is symbolic of an apology not greeting.
The Japanese are very cultured, Obama is a culture Idiot
Remember the incident with Queen Elizabeth? You took offense with that. Is it okay now?
I can’t believe you don’t see the difference.
If both parties of equal strength and bow to each other it’s fine but when one peer bows to the other then there is a problem
Our president is an equal to these people not subservient.
If someone comes over to the house I shake his hand not bow to them
Come on this isn’t apples to apples at all.
This is after he bowed to king abdullah in saudi arabia and it’s not a friendly greeting there so what’s the excuse for that.
The whitehouse denied that it was a bow to abdullah so why would they deny that it when everyone could see it was a bow.
Oh by the way it’s not custom in japan for a bow when national leaders meet.
Obama is not Japanese, that’s the issue. 😀
Does not matter. The Japanese are VERY cultural people and in Asia the act of bowing as a greeting is no different than you and I shaking hands. People are reading too much into this and are doing so simply to suit their own agenda.
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Nothing distorts the truth like a right wing extremist…
In the vein of keeping reality in focus, BO’s back was NEVER horizontal to the floor which would be 90 degrees. This cartoon shows him going past 90…
And how does this help us fix this country, looks more like a device to divide to me. Like I said this shit is the problem with this country, distortion of the truth for political gain.