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LBT 25 caliber mold update

I am pleased.

I have been on this 25 Condor cast bullet quest for several months now. I have gone thru 4 molds, a RCBS 25 acp 52 grain rn, a Lyman 65 grain swc, a Lee/Ranchdog 56 grain swc and finally the LBT mold that I had Veral Smith custom make for me, a 57 grain two band LFN bullet.

I am using a 24 inch LW barrel that mikes .2549/.251 for the bore/choke. I have opened the lead in that I can seat with firm thumb pressure a 57 grain bullet sized to .255 that had cast out to .2565 from 20-1 alloy.

I have tried two lubes with this bullet, ATF and Spray Moly. And Spray Moly is the hands down favorite with this bullet.

My Condor is set up with a 2×7 Burris FUllfield shotgun scope set on 3 power to alleviate as much Parallax error as I can at the range I am testing, 30 yards. I have it sighted in at 1.3 iches high at that range, but more on that later. I used this scope because the rifle combination is dedicated to these slugs and it is to be used on smaller animals like coyotes and coons, definately not the top of the Doug Fir starling gun.

I am using a heavier spring, the next wire size up, .80 that I obtained from a Airarcher kit and a Airarcher hammer, valve spring and valve retainer all from Airarcher. The spring I altered to fit the PW and shortened it to the length of the standard Condor/Talon spring.

Using a PW setting of 0 and a Top Hat setting of .13 and a 3200 PSI fill the rifle does not give a bathtub ballistic curve, the velocity goes straight downhill. With the chrony at 15 feet the first 5 shots are 1033,1022,1011,1011, 1004. That is 130 FPE. The next 5 are 999.981,971,964,960, which is 120 FPE.

Prelimitary testing seems to show that 120FPE seems to be a bit more accurate than the 130FPE, going into .75 and the 130FPE at 1 inch.

However there are two factors in accuracy here, #1, I have not sorted these bullets, I cast 270, I found two glaring defective bullets while sizing, sprayed them with Moly and shot them from the can. I weighed one bullet to see how heavy the alloy cast and that was it. This is not quality casting here for shooting groups, nor is using a 3 power scope, so they are probably capable of far better accuracy.

Now the lower level of 120 FPE or 975 FPS with a 85 yard zero this is the bullet path:

30 yards + 1.3″,
40 yards +2″,
50 yards +2.3″,
60 yards +2.2″,
70 yards +1.6″,
80 yards +.65″
85 yards Zeroed,
90 yards-.76,
100 yards -2.5″ where it retains 99 FPE.

As I say, I am pleased.

My 58 Merdedes 220S bench rest.

120 FPE group

Regards,

Roachcreek

Airforce Rifles/Pistols

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A new version is “Aids, Crosman Rogue, herpes and Gonorrhea, which one does not belong”

Gonorrhea, the only thing you can get rid of.

Regards,

Roachcreek

I’m reminded of an old SAT question; Roachcreek, Riverside, Humility, which does not belong? 😆

Synopsys,

Right on all issues, and we can start teaching them as soon as Riverside and I teach them humility. 😎

Regards,

Roachcreek

Could be… But the smell of burning smokeless powder will never get old for me. I kind of prefer the smoke cloud of the BP though. Always turns the heads of the smokeless shooters at the pistol range. 😆

Did I read it correctly that Marvin will soon be casting perfect 25 cal slugs for pennies on the dollar? WTG Marv! Looking forward to getting some cheap perfect hand cast ammo soon!

Jerry’s in need of casting lessons? 😆 Shit, perhaps to return the favor he can teach Marv how to shoot… 😀

Moneyshot,

When I was heavily into BPCR shooting both in hunting and competetion, I used to comment that smokeless powder was simply a passing fancy.

Regards,

Roachcreek

with plain ol air too.

just think, if helium were cheaper, gunpowder may become obsolete…

I was telling my old competetion shooting buddy that made the blade that I photoed with the LBT bullets, Alan Boruck, about the 57 grains at 1030 FPS. He stated. “that is close to a 22 mag.” I didn’t comment on that for I thought there may be better comparisons.

Well I was in the reading room yesterday and picked up a Midway flyer to give something to read while making Occupy wall street protestors, and there was my comparison load.

In their ammo section they had high performance 32 acp Gold Dot ammo that was 60 grains at 1000 FPS.

Pretty darn close, better penetration with the LBT tho.

Regards,

Roachcreek

Cool thing then Jerry, may have you send me an order of them soon…

I will PM you when I do…

Rowdy,

I don’t think the 52gr RNs are as accurate as the 6 rings but they don’t seem that far off if they are perfect. Roach showed they can shoot but have flyers. I think his flyers were tiny defects in the slugs not shooting or gun related…don’t know for sure but that’s my gut feel.

Feel free to order some if you want to try them. The biggest reason for only taking the small orders is that the RNs take so much inspection time, it delays other orders. We’re all about shipping quality slugs. We want our customers to be confident that if they can shoot and the gun is good, our slugs will track true.

Roach,

You crack me up, that was a really good riff!

BTW, the Elk horn gun is a rifled .62 and the budget Woodsman is a smoothbore .62. Of course, I can out shoot you with either one but just want you to know… 😆 😆 😆

It’s true, nobody should trust me around their woman provided she’s drunk and under 300 pounds…

Penn State, do they have a casting club? 😆

Kid in disguise Daddy otherwise???

I have said it before, you guys eat your young around here LOL…

Dayyyuuummm you guys play rough 😆 😆 😆

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Wait…….so Jerry and Marvin are gay?!

On the college football team shower detail, who was the appointed “SOAP DROPPER”? 😯

well, not penn state-style love… 😳

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