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Matador on "permanent probation". :)

The lineup that AoA has in store for me is what dreams are made of…

Wolf is up next – after that, the spankin’ new Daystates.

If it turns out that I want to keep an AoA gun, the “famous” Matador may soon find itself in the classifieds (my pockets aren’t deep enough to own multiple “super PCPs”. I care about one thing only – accuracy. The Royale held its own against the Matador. The Matador barely (and I mean BARELY 3/100th’s of an inch average) beat it in the accuracy “test” (it very well could have swung the other way had I done a second test). And, not having to clean the barrel as much is certainly a welcome change. The slow-motion camera also showed that the Edgun sends out more “wobblers” than the Royale (the Royale didn’t do any, acutally).

The Royale had a lot to like. But, in the end….I just didn’t feel like going through the learning curve again with another gun. BUT, if I get my hands on a gun that can put down that 10-shot MOA group repeatedly at 100 yards, the Edgun hits the classifieds, plain and simple.

I hope I’m not sounding like a dick – it’s just a heads-up to you guys – I may have to make the “other guns” page my new home, soon. 🙂 I have no loyalties to any gun or manufacturer. I am 100% committed to my quest for the MOST ACCURATE gun I can get my hands on. And each month will bring a new challenger from AoA.

NOW FOR MY QUESTION: I have arguably THE best known Matador in the Western World. If I go to sell it, do you think I need to include every speck of information I’ve ever recorded and written, or can I just sell it like every other guy sells guns (one photo of the gun – one photo of the best 5-shot group ever attained with that gun) 😀

I’d like to hear your thoughts – no matter how rude they are. 😆

ted

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quote Ted in Madison:

NOW FOR MY QUESTION: I have arguably THE best known Matador in the Western World. If I go to sell it, do you think I need to include every speck of information I’ve ever recorded and written, or can I just sell it like every other guy sells guns (one photo of the gun – one photo of the best 5-shot group ever attained with that gun) 😀

I’d like to hear your thoughts – no matter how rude they are. 😆

ted

My rude thought is: One lucky guy might soon make some other lucky guy very happy 😀

Ugh! I hate the dentist. It’s not the pain, that is bearable. It’s the smell. Drilling teeth makes a smell that twists my guts in knots. But, enough of that! Just keep popping your pills. 😆

I appreciate the time you took to respond with that detailed message. No doubt, those regulated guns have the advantage over those that don’t. Some guys don’t feel the need to have a regulator, but that’s probably because they aren’t as GREEDY as the rest of us. 🙂

The Wolf MCT scares a lot of guys away because of the electronics. But, not me. I can not wait to get that gun. Well, maybe I can wait…because it will be arriving at my home while I’m 5000 miles south – spearfishing! 🙂 I’ll track it from my holiday place, and tell my housesitter when to expect it.

You are now all cleared to hate me. 😎

Ted,

I appreciate your honesty as well as your integrity.

Owning 30+ high end airguns (with more to come), I have some experience, and accuracy is what I am after. And consistency over the shotstring………..

On my crusade for the most accurate gun I’ve come to the following conclusion (not surprisingly): The gun you’re looking for has to be a regulated one. Period. Daystate’s AirWolf MVT or MCT (or friends) do a pretty good job even without a regulator due to the electronics, – but that’s as long as the electronics work. My AirWolf MVT delivers more than 100 shots pellet on pellet from a benched position. That’s with a 500 cc bottle and 18 grs JSBs at 900 fps. The shotstring is completely flat.

The Daystate Huntsman Classic with Harper sling shot valve is also one of my favorites, albeit the shotstring not being completely flat. However better than a “normal” PCP. But the DS “innards” look like they have been carved out by a badly trained beaver with a hangover…….

Any other gun, regardless of brand, price, buildquality etc. will show up a shotstring more or less like a segment of a circle if it is not regulated, – no matter what you do.

Here are some typical examples:

The only regulated gun in the above is the BSA R10…..

EDgun Lelya as you know delivers a picture like this:

But again Lelya is a regulated gun and with a completely flat shotstring as a result

Finally I’ll show a comparison between the elctronic AirWolf MVT at 40ft/lbs (roughly) and the unregulated AirRanger 50, both .22:

The shotstrings should speak for themselves…..

You certainly know all this, but others may not…….. 😉

There are quite a few regulated guns out there, but many are not. I would think it unfair to compare regulated to unregulated.

I am looking forward to receiving my Matadors as they are indeed regulated, and I shall post shotstrings and comparisons as soon as get the chance. My desire for Matadors is based on what I know about mechanical finish of the “innards” and the size. Bulpups are a different concept all together….

I was supposed to visit the FX-factory in Sweden tomorrow, but unfortunately my dentist has put a stop to that. A nasty infection in my mouth forced him to eliminate one of my molars a couple of days ago, and I’m still chewing painkillers…….

So the FX strings shall have to wait as well…….

But if you can lay your hands on a regulated BSA Hornet/Lonestar, – I think you may have reached the optimum in longrange accuracy. Have you seen what our friend “Yrrah” from “down under” does with that rifle ?

I wish you good luck with your forthcoming tests, but please do a graphic of the shotstrings involved…..

And what was the price for your Matador again ? 😉

Cheers
Trygve 😀

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