Mutant questions
Been thinking about buying a mutant but being my first pcp I have some questions.
Is the gun really made in Ukraine? I know the barrels were changed at one point but I remember reading that also the gun or parts of the gun may also be made in china.
Does anyone hand pump their mutant? My only air source would probably from a hill 4 pump. How would filling it from 0 bar to 250 be? Then 150 to 250 bar?
And lastly does anyone know when the standards will be back in stock?
Thanks in advance!
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Is there an echo in here!! I agree the with the general consensus the mutant is the bees knees. Nothing cheap or “Chinese” about it… A little heavy but built like a Swiss watch, took me a little bit to get use to it but it still shoots better than I ever will. Before I bought an unreg carbon tank I used a cheap Benji pump to get from 150bar to 250bar. It’s a chore for a 165lb weakling like me but doable! Helps if your tall..
I’m glad to hear people are intentionally only filling to 230bar because I was starting to think there was something wrong with my regulator, because the first few shots were wildly inconsistent and used huge gulps of air, then it would smooth out to almost perfect consistency. Getting 40 ish shots with jsb 18.1 at 890fps, but looking to buck wind by changing to hn21gr.
As for accuracy my shaky ass has been able to shoot sub 2″ groups at 100yrds and just yesterday in a light breeze at the local range I put 14 pellets thru a 1/2in ragged hole at 50yrds.!! The powder burner guys were weeping…lol
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It depends mainly of what use you make of your gun.
If it is for hunting then probably one fill will give you enough shots so a pump probably is all you need.
For target shooting or plinking you are better off with a bottle (but you will depend on your source where you fill the bottle and they are not always next door or open when you need).
Probably you will end up with a pump and a bottle …..
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I pump my Mutant Short using a Hill MK3. On average it’s slightly more than 1 pump per 1cc of air. Going from zero to 250 is a chore and you’ll have to stop for the pump to cool down. Most likely 3 breaks until filling it from empty depending on the ambient room temperature. Going from 120 to say 250 isn’t as bad but once you pump above 220 bar, it takes a lot more effort for each pump. You have to leverage your body weight to get it done. Using your arms alone won’t cut it anywhere above 180 bars.
I use a Hill mk4 hand pump to pump my Shorty from factory and keep it filled just using the hand pump. I don’t think it is too much work. The pump cooling part is really the limiting factor.
As to where parts are manufactured, the key is whether they are manufactured correctly! In terms of how all the parts fit together, the Mutant can easily rival AA, Daystate and Weihrauch. It is too early to tell long term reliability, but so far everything is working great with no sign of any tear and wear.
The HST is a big selling point as some have pointed out already. I dial mine to 10.5 FPE for short range duty, 20 FPE for field target matches, and 28 FPE for long range GS hunting (to be done in 2017!). Air efficiency is also very good even with a short barrel and tiny air tank.
Most of us prefer 220 bar because regs are a bit wasteful of air at 250bar and it is less stressful on the o-rings
I have used FX hand pump in the past, pumping is not that difficult at all, just use your bodyweight. The anoying part of handpumping is that the pump overheats so you need to stop pumping and rest the pump. I have no experience with Hill pumps but I hear they are not as Good with pumping as FX, although they have that moisture filter (fx has a moisture trap but not one of those bigass filters)
Hmm i was set on a standard. I also noticed alot of people dont fill their guns to 250 but to 220. Any reason?
Is 120 to 220 easier then 150 to 250?
get yourself a Shorty….. it will be easy hand pumping….
And yes they are made in Ukraine I know this for a fact.
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Yes, made in Ukraine. Barrels are CZ.
Hand pumping this gun up from zero would be a real bitch of an effort. Topping it off would be much easier. Ask the seller to fill it before he ships it to you. Topping off might take well over a hundred pumps, depending how low the psi is.
The new Standards coming out, probably in January, would be worth waiting for. You might find a good deal on a used one on the Yellow after the new ones come out.
Personally, I think the current model is perfect as is…but always room for minor improvements.
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Well if you get one….
you’ll really like it, your picking a great bullpup. It’s the most quite out of the box, with the best trigger on any bullpup out there. The Taipan reg is awesome…….
Because you can adjust your hammer spring to fine tune shots.
And you don’t have, adjust the reg, like the other bullpups.
You not have the, reg hammer spring balance as much, it’s more forgiving.. :biggrinn:
Yes they are made in the Ukraine. As for parts made of the gun may also be made in china.
I think that was just b.s. from people trying too put the Taipan down.
That mostly came from air gun nation.
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The Nasty Black Insect is right on the mark with his comment~
It seems no matter what pcp is involved, today’s mechanical regulators cannot make effecient use of air above 3200, or so, psi….don’t know why, I don’t care. I just fill to 3200 psi and enjoy the 30+ shots I get.
Without doubt, an electronic regulator will eventually be available in our price range guns that will deliver their full potential. Meanwhile, just maximize what is available by staying withing their known limitations.
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