Need help choosing an air tank
I would appreciate your opinions on an air tank for my Talon that will be arriving from Talontunes in a few days. I am looking at this from Pomona-airguns
New 15 year 88 cu.ft. Fiberglass Tanks $469 for the complete package including carrying strap, valve, gauge, hose, quick connect and adapter!! Save $100 over Carbon Fiber
What do you guys think of this tank. Does this package include everything I will need to fill my Talon tank? Do I need anything else? What do I need to tell the people at Pomona to ensure that I get all the right parts? I have checked with some local paintball shops and they are able to fill this tank to 4500psi. This will be my first PCP so I appreciate all of your input. Thanks.
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Thanks again Doug. That is just the type of info I need. Yeah the Central Valley is nasty in the summer time but I have been here my whole life so I guess I don’t know any better. Thanks for taking the time to help out a beginner.
Kenny.
Check out:
http://www.hamcontact.com/airgun/HoseAssembly/
Joe seems to have a few used tanks. You can check with Mac1 as well (best to call). On Joe’s site you can see examples of the stuff you’ll be dealing with. The female QD (Quick Disconnect) fitting is the standard of sorts you see on the end of the hose. Guys snap the male part on with whatever fitting is needed by the gun to change from one gun to another. Much better than threading stuff on and off and all the leaks that involves.
The guy that sells you the tank can set you up if you use the magic words (‘my gun’s adapte ends in a male QD’). You might also consider getting a dual male fitting at the same time, this allows the shop to fill your tank like a big paint ball tank, not everybody is set up to fill fire figher bottles.
Good luck. Once you get it sorted out, it’s easy to deal with. Then you start burning though the pellets. And going down for air fills.
Oh, yeah, good to meet you. I’m in the bay area, but know the area. Kinda hot and dry in summer for my tastes, but some folks like that.
Doug Owen
Thanks for your help guys. Tony told me today that he made me a fill adapter with a male quick connect on it. I am not sure exactly what that is (I know I sound like such a rookie). This is my first PCP and I have never used air tanks before. I assume that the fill adapter goes between my Air Force tank and and the SCBA tank that I am filling from. I would not mind buying a used tank if I could find one. My main concern is making sure I get all the parts i need to fill the tank on my Talon. Do you know of any used tanks for sale now? I do want to buy from a dealer that will also be able to make sure I get all the hardware that I need.
I am in Clovis, Calif. Right next to Fresno, in case you have not heard of Clovis. Thanks again for your help.
Kenny.
The big difference with these tanks is they are glass fiber wrapped, rather than carbon fiber. This means the jacket his thicker and heavier, although they are cheaper to make.
I have two glass fiber bottles, both bought used. A 66 cu ft from Joe for $225 a while back. It had ten years left when I got it. The other a 44 cu ft from Mac1 for $100 with seven years left. On a dollars per year basis, they are clear values. I also bought a 88 cu ft CF tank from the Fire Fighter selling them on E-bay (and posted here) a few months back. It was less than $250, has 8 years to go, but needed hydro ($25) when I got it (the other two had fresh hydros, since I picked up the small one at he shop it even came filled).
The CF is lighter than the 66 glass one and very little bigger. If you’re going to carry it around, this is worth considering. I find the ’30 minute’ tank (the small one) is a great size to take into the field, it would be even nicer if it was lighter. BTW, the 88 cu ft tanks (aka 60 minute) gain a lot of weight when filled, about seven more pounds. Something hard to notice in SCUBA tanks, but easy in SCBA (which is why you find CF and glass fiber being popular). SCBA bottles also have full time pressure gauges (so the FF knows how much air he has when he grabs the tank), a nice feature not always found. They even ‘glow in the dark’ in case you live that way……
I suggest you consider used ones, they are all worth zip at the end of their service lives (only the valve still usable). Consider it on a dollars per year basis.
You’ll also need a fitting to fill your AF tanks. The factory one comes with a 1/4 straight (not tapered) thread. You’ll probably need this fitting and somthing to adapt it to the male female QD or whatever is on the end of the fill adapter. IIRC I bought a nice brass one from Joe for about $25, otherwise you probably get the local hydrolic shop to cobble something up for you.
So, where abouts in Calif are you?
Doug Owen
Welcome Kg. What part of Cali are you from? I’m in the San Joaquin valley. You’ll get more responses when you put in a link http://www.pomona-airguns.com/PCP%20Accessories.htm like that. I looked and couldn’t find the price but I believe Steve is the guy that runs that store and I hear he’s a good guy to do business with.
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You’re welcome, Kenny. Your turn to help the next fellow up the trail will be here all too soon. Feel free to leave me a PM here if you get hung up somewhere.
I know what you say about home. It can make so much different.
Good luck and good shooting.
Doug Owen