New bauer oceanus/pb-e1 owner with tanks etc.
Hi. First post but have been lurking around a bit. I really appreciate the compressor reviews everyone has done here and am hoping you can help me.
I just bought a bauer oceanus/pb-e1 setup. This includes the compressor, 2 44cf bauer tanks, cables and a bauer pit boss. I didnt get a manual for this set up so i dont really know how its supposed to be configured. I have been reading the bauer jr post by guykuo and that has helped. So here are a few questions.
1. This entire setup is new, never used however i found out after buying it that it was made and bought in 2010. That means the large tanks are now 6 years old. They were never used. Should they be hydro tested because of age?
2. What is the pit boss used for?
3. Sine this machine is new but has been sitting for 6 years should i take any precautions when starting it?
4. Anyone know where i can find a manual for this setup?
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Thank you for the reply and sorry for my late response. Pictures of what I have are below. Ideally I would like to fill both tanks and be able to fill 3000 psi psintball and 4500 hpa.
Ray, we are very lucky to have you participating here.
You have an odd duck for valves in that they are DF Series Dual Fuel Alternative Energy Valves normally used in CNG. So, you just install the jumper from the air compressor to one of the outlets and the filler hose with gauge to the other. That adapter on the filler looks to be a CGA347 for filling standard bulk air tanks. For us to tell you exactly how to hook it all together, we need to know what fittings are on each end of the hoses.
Yeah I will add a pressure gauge once I actually hook it up to something. The manual said to run it for 15 minutes with everything open for break in purposes I suppose. I do have the filter installed and the vent is closed per the manual.
This sad thing about this setup is that I got all of these parts but didn’t get any manual or instructions. I have been in touch with bauer and they said that a manual is not available for the overall setup (i was able to download one for the oceanus).
I think the setup is supposed to go something like this
Compressor output -> long hose -> 444 cu ft tank -> short hose -> 444 cu ft tank -> long hose -> fill station -> output hose for rifle or smaller tank.
for my needs I really don’t have to have two 444 cu ft tanks I can just fill one. It seems like if I open the valve on the 444 cu ft tank while filling the air will just run out the other side unless I put something in the output. Maybe there is some sort of check valve that keeps that from happening when you fill?
Congratulations on first power up.
For heaven’s sake don’t run the compressor without a gauge to monitor the output line.
Gauge goes on your fill whip. Hard to tell on the low res picts what connectors are what on the SCUBA fill whip, but it looks like you already have a whip configured for DIN connection to a tank. I have my whip configured with the gauge on the compressor side of the fill valve. That lets me see the pressure even with the valve closed.
No air will come out of the compressor outlet until the air filter reaches the PMV (pressure maintaining valve) pressure. That is probably about 2,000 PSI. That takes about 30 seconds before the pressure gets high enough to kick the PMV open. Until then, no output.
Also, make sure the final stage pressure limit test knob (top of filter) is disengaged (counter clockwise). If it is screwed in clockwise, it holds the pressure limit valve open and you won’t get much output, just venting out the top of the filter.
If you are venting out the bottom… You do have a filter cartridge installed, right? No cartridge —-> no seal.
Follow Bauer’s video showing how to install the filter cartridge. This is on the Jr, but process should be similar for yours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJV4AfmyfiI
Yes, you open the valve on the tank when filling. Otherwise, nothing gets in or out of the tank. Just be sure to shut down, close the tank valve and BLEED the line before disconnecting.
Got my tanks hydro tested and they are good for another 5 years. Electrician installed my 220 volt outlet and I ran the compressor for the first time tonight as the manual suggested. I think I am ready to try and fill at least one of my 444 cu ft tanks up. Couple of questions…
1. When I ran it with bleed valves open I didn’t get any air through my output hose. I closed the valves and still no air. The vents had plenty of air coming out. I’m wondering if I need to make an adjustment to the output screw?
2. I have a gauge that Bauer provided but I’m not sure where to put it? I need to know when to shut off the compressor.
3. Does it matter which side of the air cylinder I hook the hose to? Both sides appear to be the same. Do I open the valve on the bottle when filling?
4. This setup is supposed to have a hose that links the two cylinders together. I don’t have it … Any idea where I can get one?
Nice combo buy! Congratulations.
I’d look at http://www.bauer-kompressoren.de/en/service-support/documents/spare-part-lists-accessories-catalogues-service-manuals/compressor-manuals/ for the manual.
There is an entire procedure that Bauer spells out for reactivating a compressor that has been in storage.
Another place to search for more experienced user advice is http://www.scubaboard.com
BTW, be sure you wire the motor appropriately for the type of motor it is. Get it right for the voltage and number of phases. My motor is 230 volt single phase. If yours differs, the wiring will be different.
Also, check that your motor spins in the correct direction. Turn on for just a moment and back off. See that the fan rotation direction is correct. If you run the motor backwards, the compressor will seem to work, but no have any lubrications —-> badness.
Yes, I would have the tanks tested before use. Don’t mess with 4500 PSI and over million joules of energy. That kind of failure doesn’t injure you. It kills you and any of your loved ones nearby.
As for the Pit Boss…. Looks like a fill station…. Here is what I found….
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PIT BOSS II is a push button operated fill panel that provides convenient refilling of paintball marker air tanks. PIT BOSS II protects the tank and the marker’s regulator assembly from the problems associated with a rapid filling and venting sequence. Low pressure air is not required for operation of PIT BOSS II. PIT BOSS II is easy to operate and unlike competitive brand push-button fill panels that are hard to push and hold during filling.
PIT BOSS II is low maintenance compared to competitive brand push-button fill panels which must be serviced every 300 – 500 fills. PIT BOSS II does not require a lot of effort. PIT BOSS II is for use downstream of high pressure storage. The high pressure supply line to PIT BOSS II must include a pressure regulator. Regulators are available separately from BAUER. BAUER recommends remote mounting the pressure regulator to prevent tampering with the setting. PIT BOSS II is factory set to customer specified fill pressure and is protected from overpressure by a factory installed relief valve. A metal plate with the factory setting stamped therein is wire-tied and sealed to the relief valve. Competitive brand push-button fill panels do not include or offer a relief valve for overpressure protection.
PIT BOSS II is available only in a tabletop design and with 1 fill hose. The standard fill hose is 2-feet long. Longer lengths are available. The fill hose is shipped loose from the panel. The fill hose includes the industry’s only 5000 psi rated quick-connect fill coupling with integrated shutoff valve. The shutoff valve prevents hose whip if the fill panel is activated without the fill coupling being connected to a fill nipple. The 5000 psi working pressure is stamped right on the coupling. The fill hose is completely external to the fill panel for easy inspection and replacement when required. BAUER recommends inspecting the fill hose before each use. The fill hose and fill coupling are available as individual replacement items.
Four mounting holes are provided for securing the panel to a flat, level surface. Other than connecting the fill hose to the panel, only a connection to a regulated, high pressure air or nitrogen source is required for operation. Both connections to the panel are male 37 degree flare JIC.
BAUER’s quality system is registered to ISO 9001-2000, a unique distinction among manufacturers of products for paintball. Depend upon the reliability and stability of an established manufacturer of high pressure products. Put your trust in the best name in high pressure, BAUER. Our expertise in high pressure makes high pressure safer for you.
Technical Data:
Push button operation
Self-venting design
Safety valve at inlet, factory preset to customer specified fill pressure.
CAUTION! A pressure regulator must be used upstream of the PIT BOSS II.
Sintered filter internal to valve
2-foot high pressure fill hose with fill coupling
Fill pressure gauge
Reversible air flow
Dimensions: 5.5in x 7.75in x 7.5in
Weight approximately: 6.25 lbs.
1 year warranty
Features:
Easy Pushbutton Operation
2-ft long Fill Hose with 5000 psi rated Paintball Fill Coupling
Low Maintenance
Reversible Airflow
Safety Valve for Overpressure Protection of the Paintball Marker Air Tank
For Use with High Pressure Air or Nitrogen
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Start at the compressor and work you way out. Lay out the hoses long first and look at the two ends. At least one end should be configured with the right fitting to hook to the filter outlet. If you have a female on the other end, use one of the nipples (in the bags) to go into one side of the valve. The short hose with the quick disconnect on it comes out of the Pitt Boss.
Now you just look at the hoses and fittings that are left and fit them together. It really should be easy to figure out once you put the most obvious parts together first. Cop out I know, but kind of the best I can do without pictures of the hose ends that you have. I really can’t figure out why the CGA347 filler with valve and gauge since you don’t have anything in your system that uses it.