New Evanix Speed Bullpup
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I think this is a bad idea all together. With the deaths that have aready happened because of pellet guns a semi / full auto high power, air gun. Just the excuse needed to ban or require a FAC for our hobby.
I hope to GOD him self I am wrong.
using an Evinix full auto on a sitting bird or small varnmit would be kind of foolish and way overkill in my opinion
while I do tend to agree with your comments regarding most folks with semi autos versus a single shot that is firearms, not airguns
if its reliable it would be a great feral cat and dog gun
RS, don’t doubt then energy imparted on prey with a burst is gonna be spectacular at all. That’s common sense at least for me. But a 3-5-7-10 rd burst on a WABBIT or even smaller SPARROW don’t equal the all out accuracy of the single shot. My 10-22 was so fun when i first got it. I would blast ammo as fast as i could pull the trigger but, that fascination quickly wore off. When it came time to hunt squirrels or rabbits with it, i shot for all out accuracy with one shot. The need for quick follow up shots become infrequent. Now i hunt with my single shot airguns and PB’s and the 10-22 gets used every now and then for target shooting.
The key word is “IF” someone hits a bird or squirrel or fox or yote or rabbit with a 3 or 5 rd burst is my concern and your answer proves that folks are for sure are gonna try to be the 1st to get it on video. Not everyone can shoot that well to be honest as i’ve had tons of friends with semi prove it on hunts. LOL…the old semi didn’t lend to shit compared to a single shot. It just meant that they missed the target MORE than i did…lol
Again, i can’t wait to see how this all pans out.
something to consider before discounting selectfire capability as worthless is that the energy on target with a three round burst is not an additional but rather geometric progression due to shock and other truama imparted to the prey.
in other words if the burst was accurate the effect on prey would likely be better than what you might achieve with a single 1000FPE shot
Had a buddy years back that was a Class II manufacturer that had a highly modded American 180 .22 rimfire machinegun
insane bullet hose that we used a few times on Coyote hunts
a quick tap on the trigger generally would pump half a dozen or more projectiles into 3″s of meat…instant, immediate death
much quicker than .223 or even .308
that’s the real advantage here
I’m still on the fence regarding the Speed
not a fan of electric guns and as much as folks think this is something new it is actually an old idea going back to the MacGlashan BB machinegun trainers used by the Army Air Corps back in WWII
these used an electrically powered selniod as well
I have no real use for rat- a- tat tat, but it still sounds like fun.
As far as being big in the rear, have you been to Walmart lately? 😛
In the end it will all depend on the accuracy to me.
RC
That thing is fugly man. Sorry but its too bulky in the rear near the face. But that’s just me.
I’m really curious to see how this things sounds in person cause it sound LOUD to me in the video. And most of the guys who want one appear to be BACKYARD hunters (i said most not all).
Just not really excited about this thing. Semi auto lends to bad habits in my opinion too. I can see the videos now of guys shooting stuff with 5-10 round burst…lol. Just not practical at all to me and more of a fun TOY than anything.
And as far as REAL accuracy goes, i can’t wait till the consumers get them and do real world report on em.
Keepin an eye out on this one.
Mark,
Yes it is also in 25, if I used a aftermarket barrel, I would not need to alter the stock barrel and could return it to oringinal. Barrels are cheap.
Ed,
The test I read the shooter was getting 60 FPE with pellets, so I assume you would be seeing 70 to 75 FPE with 57 grain projectiles.
Regards,
Roachcreek
Few cents from me 🙂
Airgun is not as powerful as firearm — so the only field of competition with them we have — accuracy, due to the low impact while shooting. Though that is the main feature we have to pay attention to. Thus, to me, — full-auto airgun is plink toy, not a serous weapon. For now on I establish for myself the idea what next EDgun should look like:
1. Bullpup.
2. Semi-auto with possibility to reload on demand not immediately after the shoot.
3. New magazine for about at least half of filling capacity of the gun (the best way — one fill — one magazine).
Ed
I thought i read there would be a .25?
I would customise it. I would put a after market 25 caliber 25 acp barrel on it, with the lead relieved to accept my 57 grain LBT bullet.
I am sure it would surpass the 25 acp by 100 yards and give me a full auto, supressed 25 acp machine gun with a big metplate.
Granted a 25 acp is not the biggest dick in town, but if you hold it against a rib cage of a coon or coyote, it is deadly, and that is effectively what you have.
If the entire conversion did not work, I could put the factory barrel back on and sell the barrel or use it for something else.
Regards,
Roachcreek
I saw a video of someone in Europe that has already customized an Evanix Speed wth a higher voltage battery to shoot at almost twice the speed as the stock gun he had.
There goes the warranty! This technology still needs to prove itself. As for me, I wasn’t to fond of the electronic daystate until I read users experience. I do agree that the full auto fun won’t last long. Looking at the guts and the motor just ruined it for me.
Hoot, people will always customize.
I saw a video of someone in Europe that has already customized an Evanix Speed wth a higher voltage battery to shoot at almost twice the speed as the stock gun he had.
I like the adoption of the bullpup and semi auto formats. I just wish they would’ve chosen a more unique physique on the thing. Looks awfully familiar in that video.
Hoot,
The only report/review I have read was by Chapman, he stated it was the single most accurate 25 caliber air rifle he has fired, ever. And that was at 60 FPE.
Now Pyramyd air did a part one post on it, and one of the comments was from a poster who had a 22 caliber, and he mirrored your comments.
I have owned several very accurate semi’s chief among them have been AR’s that were tubed and lowered, and Super Match M1A’s and a Knight/Stoner SR25.
I did hunt comercially one year with the AR and had won the Oregon State title with it that year, I still found it to be a poor choice, and I had several M1A’s and a Knight/Stoner SR25, all of which would have been poor choices for hunting when compared to conventional bolt actions or single shots.
It will be interesting what comes of this.
Regards,
Roachcreek
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If it works out, I will probably by one of the full length ones.
I really doubt the sky is falling LMTSS, it certainsly didn’t fall with the Drozd or the full auto Monsoons, as a matter of fact BAFT has not even flinched with the converted Monsoons.
Same Sky is falling hysteria came out when the Rogue was coming out because it was a 357 suppresed, still out there even tho it was a bust.
I tryed hunting coyotes with a AR15 Flatop, probably the 2nd one in existance the first year I won the championship with it, the next year I used a Ruger #3 and had a better hit ratio.
Same thing hunting elk with a Remington 3006 auto, it leads to bad habits and I found it worthless, altho there were a lot of people I knew who swore by the BAR’s.
Having said all that, again I will probably buy one if it works, it is a neat concept and if the first reports on accuracy are not bull shit it will outshoot a lot of 25’s out there.
The full auto thing has no use in the hunting fields, but will be a lot of fun.
RC