NOOB question plus NOOB results
Okay guys, I’ve been reading a lot and noticed others posting their PW numbers 5-2, 10-10 etc, I’m guessing the first number is the wheel the second the scale? correct? Please advise, Thanks
Still dealin’ with crappy winter rainy weather here and decided to chrony test indoors for shot count and velocities with different weights of ammo. Pumped the rifle up slightly shy of 3000psi, .060″ nylon washer under factory top hat, 6 shots each of 16, 18, 21, 25 and 34gr ammo starting with PW set at 2-0 (pw stops at 2) and increasing one full turn each shot thereafter up to 2-5 for 30 shots and recording each velocity at pw setting. I know I need to get out and shoot for accuracy at distance and power setting, but overall at this early stage of AF ownership I feel pretty good about the spread of speeds vs. weights vs. settings. I finished shooting 30 shots of 16gr with pw at 2-2 and getting high 900s down to high 800s fps and still having 2000psi left. :smilen:
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TM,
Yeah it can be an expensive hobby. I know I have as much invested in parts as in guns.
A lot can be achieved by polishing and deburring parts for more power and better efficiency.
Showoff :biggrinn: or would it be more appropriate to say “pics or it didn’t happen” :biggrinn: That’s good shooting for sure and I had some shots that would’ve done that too,, just not a consistent amount of ’em.. shooter error, no doubt.
In yesterdays findings I mentioned about the hammer hit noise, got to thinking about the nylon shim I have behind the top hat and wondered if an o-ring would make a difference in sound,, seems logical it would be more forgiving so there might be less sound, so this morning I did some experimentation.
Set up the chrony in my basement, 5-2 pw set, took my first shot nylon shimmed with an 18gr – 962fps, removed nylon, put on a #5 o-ring .064″ thick -1000fps and quieter, replaced the o-ring with a .062″ sanded down flat rubber washer, 980fps and noticeably quieter than the nylon.
I did some search reading on hammer slap and found the TT brass hammer makes a big difference, at some point I may spend the added $ on the gun, but for right now will have to be content as I’m finding this air gun hobby can be pricey! :suprisedn:
My condor SS is in .25 and here in CT it was about 50 today 😛 With a 31 grain I took out a bud light beer CAP at 35 yards first shot dead center.
Experienced unseasonably high temps today for January in NE Ohio. Felt good so I got the Condor out for some 35yd benchwork.
Gauge reading at 2800, pw set at 5-2, this gun will print decent groups, 1 1/4″ with pellets 18, 21, 25 and 34gr without changing point of aim. The 16gr shot couple inches high but grouped consistent. The 14gr was a bust, to fast and very erratic even at 0-0 setting.
Don’t know if the LW barrels get better with more shooting or not, but right now I wouldn’t hesitate taking pest shots at back yard distance or a little beyond.
And so quiet, all I hear is the hammer hit and the pellet smack on the cardboard, Tonys’ 6 inch shroud doing the job it’s meant to do.
http://talonairgun.com/forum/download/file.php?mode=view&id=1130
Thanks for the replies, glad I guessed right on the PW numbers.
I ordered the McNett camo wrap to make my cheek weld slightly more comfy against the tank…..guess I got carried away a bit, but I LIKE it.
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The gross adjustment is the number printed on the side of the gun. The fine adjustment is the number printed on the wheel. You probably saw that one complete rotation of the wheel moved the slide up one number.
I usually just use whole 1 or 2 number adjustments on the slide as a starting point. The difference between 2 and 4 isn’t that much. Dialing into 2.5 or 3.2 would only be if I were really trying to dial into the gnats ass for feet per second.
It’s good data for you to have, but don’t be afraid to make a wider adjustment between shot strings, unless you’re really into that level of detail.
16 gr slugs at 900 fps is still just under 30 fpe. More than enough for pesting and targets.
For the pw numbers i always posted the wheel/slide. My stock gun was happiest at 4/4 with a starting fill of 2800.
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I have Tony’s brass hammer and shroud on my 177 Condor SS and its pretty quiet. The pellet impact is louder than the hammer for sure and there is no muzzle exit noise I can hear between those two noises. I’m sure it makes a noise, but it happens so fast and is so quiet in between its not noticeable. Without the added shroud you can hear a tiny pffft, with the .177 its barely detectable.
The brass hammer makes a difference but man its expensive and its not like a night and day “OMG this thing is silent” difference. I dry fired it with an empty tank many times before and after installation. The stock hammer has a real PING to it and the brass hammer is more of a clunk, as you would expect from changing the two respective materials. I’m glad I installed it and have long forgotten about the luxurious expense, but don’t let your imagination get carried away with unrealistic expectations as to how much 80 dollars will buy you for sound reduction.
I wonder if some kind of plastic/foam/wood jacket around the action would be more effective and much lower in price? Probably hella ugly and may interfere with loading? Just thinking out loud on that one. Anyone tried that?