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On the potential to reduce muzzle blast of the .25 Vulcan…

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3/4″ up from the base of the shroud, drill eight (8) evenly spaced 1.5 mm holes around the shroud. More is not better, larger is not better. Mark each drill point with a pencil to ensure the vents are evenly spaced before you drill.

Try hard to keep the holes in an even, perfect circle. Wrap masking tape evenly around the shroud to use as a guideline, better yet, make two wrappings about 1/16″ apart to keep the holes in a near perfect circle. When done, go very slow and use a sharp new 1.5 mm drill bit, you can touch up the holes with a sharp point black permanent marking pen when done.

Does it work? On the .25 it makes a difference. If you add an LDC on the end with John’s Hagan’s adapter, or some other means, it will reduce noise to very low levels. In my opinion, very much below “neighbor friendly” levels, provided the LDC is of reasonable quality.

The Vulcan shroud has two crescent shaped internal vents where the shroud screws on to the threaded barrel end. This is about half way up the shroud tube. These two internal vents permit high pressure air to flow to the back half of the shroud, where it can expand. By adding these eight small vents, the air pressure blowing out of the muzzle is reduced by the volume of the air vented out these small back vents.

It’s not magic, just simple physics. Lower the muzzle exhaust air pressure and you reduce the muzzle blast.

Another possible method is to pull a “Colibri” and put vents in the front part of the shroud where the middle of each baffle fits. Each NEW MODEL Vulcan baffle is cone shaped and has two opposing holes cut in the middle section of the baffle. In front of, and behind, these two opposing holes are tiny O-rings that seal each baffle to the shroud wall. Those holes, and corresponding O-rings, serve no purpose I’m aware of unless vented to the outside.

Measured carefully, you can put a tiny vent hole on each side of the shroud where each interior baffle hole is located. In doing so, you will reduce the air pressure hitting each next up baffle. It is critical that these front vent holes be very small…1.0 mm to 1.5 mm, again more or larger is not better. Don’t over do it…you will create more sound than you suppress.

To get a pleasing appearance, it is critical that the holes running horizontally back be in a straight line on each side of the shroud. Again, masking tape can help you visualize how even your drill points are lined up.

To keep the vents horizontally even to the sides of the gun may require use of thin shims between the breech block and the back end of the shroud. Each shim would reduce how far the shroud could be screwed down, thus enabling you to get the holes lined up evenly along the sides of your gun. The shims could be made out of just about anything, as they don’t bear any pressure beyond being compressed by tightening the shroud. It would be a good idea to check closeup pictures of a Colibri shroud to see how it is arranged. I have not tried this personally, so think carefully before you decide to do it!

No…I do not know what will happen if you vent both the front baffles and the closed back half of the shroud. If the holes are small enough they should not permit enough air to exhaust and create any noticeable sound.

I know this process to work with rear vents. I have no data on the front vents, except for my experience with the similarly vented Colibri which was one of the quietest air guns I ever shot. Their baffles were the same basic design as the current Vulcan baffles.

DON’T use larger vent holes than recommended. Too large, and each hole will create a tiny muzzle blast of it’s own, and you will have defeated your purpose.

Use your own judgement as to whether you should do this to your shroud. I wouldn’t do it if your Vucan is smaller than .25 caliber. I cannot guarantee your personal results. I can only report what I know to be a fact from experience.

Hoot:

PS: If you use the Hagan shroud adapter, and find you cannot get your LDC unscrewed because the adapter unscrews from the shroud first, you have the option of cleaning the anti-seize compound from the large shroud end of the adapter, and using a light hold Loc-Tite product to firmly hold the adapter in the shroud. After it dries, you can easily unscrew your LDC from the front threads and put your adapter cap back on. Be aware that later removing the adapter from the shroud, even with the lightest hold Loc-Tite, may be problematic because the adapter end is very slick, and there’s not much surface to grip when removing it.

Use your best judgement before doing this, it’s simply a technique I know that has worked in getting a stuck LDC off. I cannot guarantee your results.

UPDATE….

Adapter: Hagantool@aol.com
LDC: Donnfl@gmail.com

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I think it is snobbish to exclude customers you don’t already have. That must be a new kind of business model.
And a noob migrating from who cares where into the group to defend someone that has offended the group ❓
What a way to make oneself welcome. OR NOT ❗
Thankfully we have an IGNOR BUTTON. I haven’ used it for quite a while but is useful.

PM sent Brian.

If a guy low balls me I have two options. Sell it or not. Why make such a fuss. Building walls must be fun. Not really happy how things are going. Why we need to do this exclusive crap I don’t know.

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Soze, dont waste your time. I thought it was only me that his posts sounded rather pompous, but I did wonder why there was not a lot of responces to his posts – now I know why

Can I film this and put on you tube?

Pm me your phone number tough guy

So Brian in SOCAL, I’m local so why don’t we get together and see what’s what, I mean, me being a 2 post keyboard warrior and all. Outside this little circle jerk, you’re just a dork that shoots BB guns.

I actually traded an AZ Rapid for my Vulcan, and comparing size and sound of a small device that is easily reversed in a minute when not needed to an AZ is pretty fucking stupid.

Let me know when you want to meet up.

OH thanks for the insight 2 post warrior. Another expert with a keyboard. 🙄 A child could make the Vulcan quiet when it’s that long. Why not just buy an AZ or Swift 220 MK2 if quiet manners more than size?

Do you have a MiniMod Mr. Sose? I would guess not, because if you did you would know how incredibly effective they are, especially for the price, so why don’t you STFU and get over yourself.

Big deal not like your mod is that special. My god get over yourself.

UPDATE –
Due to numerous lowballing efforts by a few numbnuts, the “Hush” MiniMods and full shrouds will available to WWAG Vulcan purchasers only. None others need respond or will be responded to.

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So you say!

Show us pictures and quote us prices….

Hoot:

Been there…..Done that Hoot. Been sleeping? 😛
MiniMods are $55; 6061 full shroud is $125; CF full shroud is $155.
Sold to selective customers ONLY! Yeah, but it’s the way I do things! WWAG Vulcan customers get a 10% discount.
Don’t look for pics of internals….I’m crazy but not stupid!

6061 MiniMod Black

6061 Full Black

CF Full

Newest versions all vented.

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So you say!

Show us pictures and quote us prices….

Hoot:

quote Hoot:

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If you put a thick O-ring around the base of the barrel, when you put the shroud back on, you can tighten it down to where the holes won’t show. The O-ring keeps enough pressure on the shroud threads to keep the shroud from rotating.

I’m trying a double shroud tube idea. I’ll let you know if it works. I do know this…I added four holes along the sides of my shroud, where the baffles are, and the gun is noticeably quieter now. That shroud needs to be vented to take the pressure off the baffles. It doesn’t really matter where the holes are. Put them on the bottom of the shroud, and use the O-ring to keep them located there when putting the shroud back on. Just don’t make the holes too large!!! Because then you will get noise from the large volume of air they release.

Hoot:

Both my full shrouds and my MiniMods incorporate a “double tube” design which I’ve found to be very effective for sound reduction. They measure approximately 71~72 db when tested at 1′ in front and 6″ to the side of the muzzle on my .25 Vulcan.

As loud as when i release some “air” ? Damn, that’s noisy.

Kudos to Uncle for leading the quest for stealthness. Good job !

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