Ping is back or more noticeable.
I have a Matador R2.5 in .22. I am hearing a ping when I shoot it. I performed a depinger installation from Ted’s youtube video about six months ago. I followed it to a tee. Could the depinger have moved? What do I have to do to make it quieter? Thank you to the knowledgeable gentleman out there in advance of the answer. Ray
All Replies
Viewing 10 replies - 1 through 10 (of 10 total)
Ted has an interesting new Youtube video on the Edgun R3, .25 Long.
It’s worth a look, and as usual, well done and informative.
Many here on this forum do not realize that Ted is not of this world. He has no ear lobes, and for a long time he couldn’t see without sunglasses. I assume his home planet does not receive harsh sunlight. A set of new eyebulbs was sent accordingly, and now he does his videos without the sunglasses. (check early videos to verify veracity!)
Ted was sent here from his home planet to educate the ignorant about “Things”. He immediately noted many of us were not air gun literate, so his Control Group sent him permission to dwell on that aspect of our culture.
I understand his next task is to explain how to achieve “Cold Fusion” in a Mason quart jar with tap water, six Rare Earth magnets and some iodized salt! While I encouraged him to address that issue, he merely said “First things first!” He is a very focused person. He also married an Earth woman, and plans to stay beyond the normal Ten Sol Circuit tour of duty.
Regards,
H 🙄 🙄 T
PS: On a personal note, Ted is shown many times shooting feral birds and invasive species of fowl. The reason for that is because the people on his home planet are insectivores. That’s right…Ted eats bugs, and feral birds almost wiped out his species back on the home planet by decimating the insect population. Note the faraway look on his face in the new video when a flock of geese fly over during his taping. It’s a genetic thing.
Wow!! So many ideas and so little time. I will try a few of the solutions you guys have provided me, one by one. Thanks to all and what a group of great friends. After I fix it, I will post the solution that worked. PS All this because I saw a couple of Teds videos. My utmost thanks to you Ted!!! And also the other criminals and various lowlife that frequent this site. Ray
On the Mrods most depingers I heard of used the clear plastic tubing slit down the middle, then turned inside out so it was trying to curl to the outside of the tube. If the external diameter of the tube is the same as the internal diamater of the air tube it will force contact regardless of the preciseness of fit, and it can be slid into place. Once in place, however, it won’t move unless you force it out the other side. Would this help in your Edgun? I’m guessing at the problem because I’ve never worked on an edgun, but it sounds similar to the Mrod pinging problem.
I think the problem is the tube isn’t pressed enough against the air-tube wall and that causes the depinger to slide on either side and lose effectiveness.
You can fix that by putting a longer tube so it adds surface contact OR BETTER YET, make the depinger from a much larger diameter tube but cut to 1.25″ diameter, or just enough so the two sides don’t overlap. That will tension the silicon tube more and will stand against the wall of the tank tube with much greater effect. That will also allow the tube to be smaller in length and not consume too much volume from the tank.
P.S. If you overlap you will loose about 1″ of surface contact in circumference.
P.S.2 Thickness play a important role in keeping the tension high in time.
XBOX. I was ready to deping my Matador as I got it, but never installed one even though I adjusted the regulator. Maybe the longer versions or the R3 doesn’t ping. Maybe I’m half deaf. Who knows?
Funny how some guns ping and others don`t. My 2.5 has no ping .
2″ would be max on tube I`d go.
Ted,congrats on your .25 Ed was lucky you bought an Edgun.Lets be
honest your videos were the main reason for huge intrest in US
Saw your pic on FB looking forward to new vid
regards,mark Ps.how did you first hear of Edgun?
Hoot enjoyed your story on cockfighting on the “OtherGun” section
My example was using a thin wall silicone tube, with 1″ diameter, facts I failed to mention. That was what I had access to in my remote location, several years ago.
There are three factors that affect silicone tube effectiveness:
1)Silicone wall thickness, (is it at least 1/8″?)
2)Length to be used,
3)Silicone tube diameter. (1.25″ was originally considered best)
The magic is finding the right combination of all three factors to absorb vibration.
Finding the very least amount of tube that is effective, may require some experimentation.
If memory serves, what seemed to work best on the Edgun at the time was a minimum 1/8th” to 3/16th wall thickness, 2″ to 4″ length, and 1.25″ diameter silicone tube, slit horizontally and folded in on itself. This was a long time ago and more is known now.
The ping vibration is dampened by two factors…the folded walls of the silicone tube pushing out against the air cylinder, but length also plays a part due to the inherent curve in such tubing. Greater length exerts lateral pressure against the air cylinder wall.
If our friend has had a failure in ping elimination, then I suggest he needs to adjust either length, diameter, or wall thickness of his silicone tube.
However, your point is well taken. If 1.5″ works for you…then what works, works! If you can, do you remember the wall thickness of the tube you used, and was the silicone tube 1″ or 1.25″? This may help our friend.
Regards
H 😯 😯 T
Really, Hoot. 6″ long? I’m not being smug – just wondering if that was a typo?
I used a 1.5″ piece, and it cost me a shot or two. 6″ may reduce the shot-count by 5-10. There is definitely a [displacement] trade-off that warrants consideration when installing a depinger.
I did use the 1.25″ ID tubing, and it continues to do its job.
1.25″ in diameter, EDIT: 1.5 to 4.0″ long, silicone hose, slit horzontally, rolled in around itself, and placed about 1/2 way into the tube.
Some have used 1.0″ diameter silicone hose with success. However, as Zoco said a short or too small piece can lose its contact with the air chamber walls and the ping returns.
H 😯 😯 T
I don’t know what kind of material your “depinger” has been made of, – but in order for it to do the job, it must press against the inner walls of the airtube. If it has lost it’s initial shape/structure, and as a result does not press against these walls as it used to, – it may be a good idea to change it……. 😉
Viewing 10 replies - 1 through 10 (of 10 total)
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
4 Comments
-
Pingback: My Homepage
-
Pingback: สล็à¸à¸•à¹€à¸§à¹‡à¸šà¸•à¸£à¸‡
-
Pingback: Aderindo ao Hamas no Brasil
-
Pingback: Colocation Bangkok
Ye Gawd, ur Riot Hoot . . got me rolling and laughing on that one, your mind must go into a Warp Zone to put that into words. I have to admit Ted from Madison is the reason I bought my R-2.5 and now it looks like
he’s got me wanting the latest edition R-3 in the 25 cal. have to see what setup he uses and what his prey of choice is, I enjoy the “Starling Smacking” the best. As for the “Pinging” I have not experienced that on my R 2.5, I am curious if some of the 2.5’s have differant density’s on the charging tube itself ( Inside Diameter wall ) that cause the noise, meaning thinner wall ( pinging ) thicker wall ( no pinging ) ? just a thought.