Please Help – Issues with Vulcan .25 Air Connector?
Well – got my new to me Vulcan but the quick fill probe quick disconnect male end won’t fit the scuba shop quick disconnect.
Then the whip hose that came with it is threaded on the small end – no quick detach mechanism – what is that supposed to attach to?
What do I need?
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Sorry, I misremembered. The whip supplied with the Vulcan is purely a DIN 300. No SCBA nor SCUBA adapter is supplied.
. By chance, did you mean to say “SCUBA” DIN regulator that comes with the gun?
Just to add to this comment (I work part-time at a scuba shop, and am one of the two regulator service personal). “A tiny bit”, in the world of regulator rebuilds, means that the o-ring is coated in a very thin “sheen” of lubricant. No glop’s….not over done. Any excess lube could clog the gun’s inlet and most likely will collect dirt/debris/dust.
Guykou: Just wanted to reiterate that I really appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share.
In this configuration, you do not use a quick disconnect at all. However, a QD whip is very useful if you have multiple guns with differing fill probes or guns that directly connect to a female foster QD. That lets you easily take care of multiple guns.
I don’t recall if there is a delrin washer in between the whip and the fill probe. If not, you will need teflon tape to effect a seal.
The valve on the fill whip is a bleed valve. It is used to DEPRESSURIZE the fill whip before you pull the probe out of the gun.
Always depressurize the whip before pulling the probe. Otherwise, you will hear a loud bang and destroy the o-rings on your fill probe if not worse.
The DIN300 end of the fill whip goes into the tank. The tank should have a DIN300 NOT a DIN150 (shorter, fewer threads) to handle the high pressure.
BTW, do not put teflon tape on the DIN threads.
Filling Sequence
Wear eye protection. Clear surroundings of errant children and pets.
Close the whip bleed valve.
Briefly crack the tank valve open to blow out any moisture or dust in the fill whip before inserting the fill probe.
Close the tank valve.
Insert the fill probe fully into the Vulcan
Close the whip bleed valve
Crack open the tank’s valve carefully and fill the gun to desired pressure. Do NOT exceed 250 bar.
Close the tank valve, and then open the bleed valve to depressurize the whip.
Finally, remove fill probe from Vulcan and rotate dust cap closed.
End filling sequence
Tips:
A tiny bit of silicone diver’s grease on the fill probe o-rings helps keep them supple and makes the probe easier to insert.
Do not substitue a flammable grease for silicone diver’s grease.
Keep the tip of your whip with probe into a zip lock to protect it between fills.
A slow flow valve on the tank makes it easy to control the rate of filling. That is a valve feature on some tanks like the Great White tank.
Guykuo- thanks very very much 🙂
Really appreciate your info. If you are ever in Jacksonville, I’ll buy you a beer 🙂
I personally, do not use the AGN supplied fill whip, but the fill probe can attach to the DIN300 fill whip supplied by AGN like this…
In this configuration, you do not use a quick disconnect at all. However, a QD whip is very useful if you have multiple guns with differing fill probes or guns that directly connect to a female foster QD. That lets you easily take care of multiple guns.
I don’t recall if there is a delrin washer in between the whip and the fill probe. If not, you will need teflon tape to effect a seal.
The valve on the fill whip is a bleed valve. It is used to DEPRESSURIZE the fill whip before you pull the probe out of the gun.
Always depressurize the whip before pulling the probe. Otherwise, you will hear a loud bang and destroy the o-rings on your fill probe if not worse.
The DIN300 end of the fill whip goes into the tank. The tank should have a DIN300 NOT a DIN150 (shorter, fewer threads) to handle the high pressure.
BTW, do not put teflon tape on the DIN threads.
Filling Sequence
Wear eye protection. Clear surroundings of errant children and pets.
Close the whip bleed valve.
Briefly crack the tank valve open to blow out any moisture or dust in the fill whip before inserting the fill probe.
Close the tank valve.
Insert the fill probe fully into the Vulcan
Close the whip bleed valve
Crack open the tank’s valve carefully and fill the gun to desired pressure. Do NOT exceed 250 bar.
Close the tank valve, and then open the bleed valve to depressurize the whip.
Finally, remove fill probe from Vulcan and rotate dust cap closed.
End filling sequence
Tips:
A tiny bit of silicone diver’s grease on the fill probe o-rings helps keep them supple and makes the probe easier to insert.
Do not substitue a flammable grease for silicone diver’s grease.
Keep the tip of your whip with probe into a zip lock to protect it between fills.
A slow flow valve on the tank makes it easy to control the rate of filling. That is a valve feature on some tanks like the Great White tank.
So if I add one of those to the DIN fill whip I got with my Vulcan, I can use that to fill up from a DIN scuba tank? I don’t need to buy another whip?
I read the manual some members kindly sent me the pdf of and it seems that is the case.
Thanks – this is my first air gun so I’m learning.
Which will connect to the end of the Whip I got with the Vulcan? Either one?
then it just connects to my quick fill probe male quick disconnect correct?
Want to confirm the whip I got with my Vulcan is a DIN whip and connects directly to the output of the SCUBA tank DIN output?
Thanks
Joe
I described your situation to my wife and she immediately says…..
We all know it is a long female problem
:rofl:
Your fill probe has a foster quick disconnect adapter screwed onto it. That’s the black part attached to the brass fill probe. It looks correct. They can be unscrewed and the probe attached to the DIN SCBA hose that comes with the gun. However, you probably don’t want to do that.
The basic problem is that some female foster connectors have a longer flange distance than normal. Those won’t attach to your QD male. I have seen that with the Mrodair Chinese brass fittings. If you get a good quality, stainless steel fill whip from Brancato, it WILL fit properly onto your fill probe. His stuff isn’t cheap and tends to talk over you before you finish a sentence, but the air connector and tank equipment he sells is all top notch quality and spec. You won’t regret spending that little bit extra.
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Coaxial weather boots make great probe protectors.
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