Production of EDguns in USA

Ed –
Having been on wait list I like the idea of US manufacturing. I live in an area of the USA where we used to do lots of really fine machining. less now, but the skill is still here. Before he got into truck driving my brother inlaw was running a grinder making parts with tolerances of tenths of thousanths of an inch. That was 15 years ago. Technology moves along so that tolerance must be easier to accomplish today, but is still very close work. That said, I am not an expert in this kind of thing, I work with numbers. Maybe if you give an idea of specifications, ie – machine requirements, machine time, materials, cnc control language you use it would make it easier to hook you up with capabilities. There is an anodizing facility about 3 miles from here. Pratt runs a major facility right here in town as does Kaman. Sikorsky is about 25 miles. . All of these guys have local suppliers that make whatever they need. heres an example, between my home and the grocery store is a forge that makes climbing gear out of aluminum and pistol frames out of steel. There are suppliers in CT that could make any parts for edgun, except maybe barrel. If you want a US barrel Benchmark makes barrels for Mac 1 and is also know for 22LR barrels. Hart in NY and Lilja are excellent names in benchrest. I like LW, but these companies can make as good a barrel as anybody, anywhere. (I love the lilja borescope video on Utube.) If you want to make edgun in USA you dont have to import anything but the design.

Kazz, looks like some folks just can’t resist the temptation to be greedy, there are always a few in every crowd, huge issue in this country and most likely a larger factor than liability if and when Ed decides to move on to production in the USA.

Ed, did you ever consider China or Mexico (not recommending them just curious if it was ever on the list)? 😕

Let me be one of your assemblers too. I used to assemble Patriots, Hawks, Sidewinders, some Mavericks too.. I would love to serve with Oldgoat…

seriously…

OG I got the info from the yellow site. I’m not trying to spread any false news I’m just forwarding what I heard and I’m sure it’s rumors but hoping that’s all it is.

I’ve also noticed 2 Edguns up for sale since, do people actually think the guns are going to drop in value all of a sudden? This is a great time to buy if any one is looking. Last week one sold for I believe under 2k and now there’s one going for 2400 with scope.

Ed,

Eagles don’t flock. You have to go out and find them one at a time.

Your best venture into Western Edgun production would be to speak to an educated source of Western Manufacturing codes, tax laws, liabilities, responsibilities to “Incorporate” your business, and permits. This would have to be a good International Business Law firm. Find out first what regulations you must comply with, associated fees, investments required for a start-up venture. Further, you need to investigate the reputation of any firms you might sub-contract with, or trust with large sums of money. In short, you will need a good corporate law attorney to watch over your start-up venture. You can find some very qualified Russian attorneys who have trained and live here to assist you.

Critically important in the U.S. will be the patent applications for your design to protect yourself from the copy thieves. I recall you mentioning you never patented your plans and parts. Here, that is a necessity.

Once you are properly incorporated, insured, and legally protected from design thieves, then you can find an unlimited number of highly qualified machinists available anywhere in our 50 states.

We have men with decades of experience lacking work who can turn out beautiful products. On this forum, Jim Gaska “Marmot_Militia” has turned out beautiful hand machined work in the pcp area. He would be an excellent candidate.

A written warranty, with very specific conditions, must be prepared, as well as a limit of liability disclaimer that the buyer would have to agree to prior to buying your product.

Approximately one out of every four individuals in American are attorneys, or have legal training. Lawsuits jam our courts for years. The way to avoid that mess is to require your buyer to admit that pcp airguns are inherently dangerous, and injury is subject solely to the handling responsibilities of the buyer, barring a mechanical failure of the rifle. I would go over these details carefully with a good corporate attorney in the U.S. The best way to avoid lawsuits is to place responsibility for use and handling solely upon the buyer.

I would recommend starting this venture very small and very slowly, letting it grow over a period of time. This limits your liability and lets you find the right individuals to produce your product. Sales will always be waiting. The key to avoid trouble is to let the sales follow after the needs for safe, quality, performance oriented production, and not the opposite way around. Find the right way and people to make your product in small numbers, and then increase production.

Be safe, go slow, find the right people. Above all, put a trusted associate in place, perhaps relocated from Russia, to watch your production carefully and insure assembly is done not just right, but to Ed’s standards!

It doesn’t make a bit of difference where in the U.S. you have your product made. We have a well trained and educated worker base. You will find highly qualified production managers and machinists in all sectors of our nation.

It can be done, and profitably. But it must be done with great care and attention to detail.

Perhaps, as mentioned earlier, have a contracted facility to produce the parts only, and to your exact specification, and then send them to one or two assembly points to be properly assembled and tested prior to shipment to your distributer in the U.S.

Breaking this project down into several sub-contracted components might be the safest way to start. If all works out well, then they can slowly be combined to centralize the production.

A lot depends on how big you want to start this venture. You can go “all in” and do it all at once, or you can go slowly, carefully, and take your time to find and resolve problems that may exist over here. Depends on how much risk you want to take.

At any means…Welcome. You wouldn’t be the first Russian to come here and make millions.

Kindest regards,

H 😯 😯 T

You do know it’s an Eastern European country he is having issues with right…? 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

To the OP…

I don’t see any issues with creating a small or medium assembly/manufacturing plant in the USA to produce the EdGuns. It could start as assembly with outsourcing of most of the parts and slowly move towards in house part making as things grow.

It’s a matter of finding some good places to make the parts that don’t charge an arm and a leg yet produce the parts to the quality that makes these rifles what they are. A good set of specifications or drawings should get the necessary quality from just about any machine shop.

Get a bunch of quality minded folks to assemble things in a caring and loving way and the USA EdGun should be just like the EdGun we have come to know and love.

I hope folks are filling your inbox Ed, this is something i’d be very interested in but have too many projects on my plate already. If your not getting offers i’d be willing to check a few options out…

Edgun made in USA 😀 If it does work out I think Tedd(oldgoat) would
be a great asset.I don`t think there`s anyone over here that knows
the Edgun better or is more passionate about them.Good luck,Mark