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Updated on July 4, 2013
donnyfl
Participant
July 4, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Q:

Question for Matador owners

Two questions for you, is the gun in this video a STD or Long and is the loudness consistent with yours? If so that’s not loud at all and backyard friendly 🙂

EdGun

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veerkracht
Participant
July 18, 2013 at 4:46 am

synopsys
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 11:49 pm

I’d venture to guess you could bottom out the valve and possibly bend or over compress some part of the hammer/valve system.

urgirlinmyjetta
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 11:44 pm

ok im alittle slow..can you explain to me why its bad to shoot under the suggested psi…and what affects might happen if done?

synopsys
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 10:58 pm

Not shooting anything (pellet or air) below a certain pressure is good practice. 😉

The back pressure in the valve is more important than the back pressure of the pellet in the barrel. Dry firing a pcp is the same as normally firing a pcp within the regular operating pressure boundaries.

The amount of pressure the pellet creates in a barrel is nothing compared to the pressure escaping from the valve. Change the barrel length and you change the back pressure.

No worries, i’m a little crazy too.

Carry on! 😆

demp223
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 10:11 pm

I could have sworn Ed said dont continue to shoot once psi below a certain point is not good for valve.
My rational is pressure in/out. Remove pellet,eliminate air charge resistance and “possibility” of damage do to overactive valve pin movement. I come from archery world where dry firing typically means damaged parts.
I’d rather be safe than sorry. Just a recommendation based on my perception of common sense.
But then again I’m a little crazy so what do I know 🙂

veerkracht
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 8:03 pm

Personaly I would keep the pressure >100 bar,
the hamer will hit the brass bold somewhere < 80 bar.
It depends on how much HST.

Regards, Robert.

synopsys
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 7:26 pm

As I suspected.

Not sure where Demp and Newbie are getting their information… 😕

veerkracht
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 7:00 pm

http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24696&highlight
Ed says:
As for dry shoot, no problem when the gun is assembled.

Regards, Robert.

synopsys
Participant
July 17, 2013 at 6:04 pm

Here is Ed’s response to someone mentioning an issue with dry firing if you over advance the mag…

quote Ed:

What is the problem with dry firing?

Not sure where Ed even said it was bad to dry fire but it looks as though he never said it…

helder22
Participant
July 6, 2013 at 8:26 pm
quote donnyfl:

Thanks Helder22, is yours a STD? I am looking to get the .25 in STD.

No, mine is a long.

synopsys
Participant
July 5, 2013 at 9:13 pm

FWB, Steyr, USFT and many other match/high end rifles are all fine with being dry fired.

I would consider this a design flaw if the valve needs the back pressure of the pellet in the barrel… 😯

sir-ville
Participant
July 5, 2013 at 7:18 pm

Dry firing won´t do you (or your EdGun) no good. Like Demp said there needs to be some “counter pressure” from a pellet or you´ll break things. A DF shot here or there probably don´t matter but regular dry firing will most likely hurt the internals such as hammer,valve etc.

synopsys
Participant
July 5, 2013 at 4:43 am

I’d bet it has something to do with the probe o-rings. 😕

That scope wheel looks like a thin cross section of a car rim. 😆

His 50m groups are all over the place, the 25m groups looks like they should. I wonder what he was resting the rifle on if anything. 😯 Looks like there was between 3-6km/hr of wind, nothing really strong. Chrony readings look like it’s shooting in the 860’s…

mrnewbie
Participant
July 5, 2013 at 4:31 am
quote Demp223:

No kidding. Just goes to show you can take a great gun, put on a tricked out looking scope and still shoot like crap if you can’t do your part.
I personally love the multiple dry fires. Somebody give this guy a super powerful compound to test(dry fire) so parts that blow up can smack some sense into him.

Dry firing is a bad thing. Maybe for other pcp’s its ok. But I remember reading on this forum, Ed himself does not recomend dry firing an Edgun

steeldreams007
Participant
July 5, 2013 at 3:25 am

that looks like a WHEEL with a scope attached .. rather than a scope with a sidewheel..

but, oh my.. what groups at 50 meters.. is that what the Matador is capable of?

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