Removing Coil From The Power Wheel Spring
I’m fairly new to this website and so far I’ve been disappointed in the lack of responses I get. I’m a newbie with no experience trying to learn the ropes and ask seemingly simple questions of those with the knowledge. I belong to rimfire central and started posting to the CZ forum when I first bought my rifle and everyone chimed in with their opinions good bad or indifferent. It was and still is great. Right now I’m dealing with a problem that almost everyone with a CZ455 has. There are even 27 pages of threads on the topic. I didn’t find what I was looking for so I put the question out there again and got the latest and greatest from everyone. Nobody just read my post and ignored it or told me to go read the 27 pages of threads or look on google. What seems to be the problem that 50 or 60 people can read a post and not one comment?
Now that I’m off my soapbox I have a question about doing something someone suggested to me on another site. This gentlemen has owned the condor since the beginning and has done seemingly every mod out there and experimented with just about everything. Anyway, he suggested that I get another main spring from Airforce and cut one of the coils off making it shorter. He said this way when the wheel was set at 0 it would actually be at 0. He further stated that with the current production spring with the wheel set at 0 the spring is still under great pressure really making it like it’s set at 6 and 6 is 12. He suggested that I would be able to go from about 5 or 10 FPE all the way to 50 with this mod. I was wondering if anyone had tried it and for those with experience if this is accurate information.
Thanks,
Kip
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its all come down to momentum of the hammer (from hammer weight and spring) vs valve opening resistant (from pressure inside + valve spring)
to cut to the right length is good if you are trying to achieve durability for the spring as well as lower power. but this mod would be permanent. you can just open the valve housing and tighten the valve inside. the downside would be, you would have slightly bigger recoil to deal with. id say its almost unnoticeable.
if you after bigger power, then if u have bigger valve, you would need bigger momentum to open the valve usually. depending on the psi and the spring behind it. thats the only 2 thing that holding the valve close.
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I did clip my spring. My FPE was almost the same with the gun dialed down to 1 as it was with the dial at 5. Anything above that made no difference at all. I clipped one coil. Flattened the end that I cut and reinstalled. My FPE at 1 on the dial is almost 400 FPE lower than before now. If I turn it up to 12, it is just like it was before at anything over 5. I just now have use of almost the entire dial for adjusting the tension on the spring.
Hope that answers your question.
Kip, being a red name tagger also, I wouldn’t become too disappointed in lack of replies from the site or compare it to RFC, might be going out on a limb here, but I believe there’s a lot more rimfire shooters out there than AF gun owners (but we’re gainin’ on ’em) :winkn:
Maybe I’m not understanding “exactly” what you’re asking, but it sounds like you’re wanting a power wheel that coincides numbers, wheel and scale, when completely turned down or up? If so,, is it really that important?
My Condor scale n wheel doesn’t match either, I wondered about that feature when I first got the gun, but didn’t get too involved in the engineering behind it,,, because the gun shot even at the lowest possible setting and I’ve yet to try the highest setting. Having an adjustable velocity gun for any ammo or shooting scenario is likely one of the reasons we own these guns. To each his own.
I’m really happy with my gun and its’ performance, without replacing internals that are available. Maybe if I get bored with it, some day? 😉
Good luck in your search for answers.
It’s like af put a spring in there to be used with much more bigger gun than the stock condor. You can clip the spring and get more adjustability out of it. And the spring doesn’t cost so much in the first place so no much harm there if you decide you once more need the factory spring preload.
I have many different spring for my guns to suite the application or barrel I want to use.
Marko
I have seen this on here also. If you cut a coil off it will give you a lot more adjustability with the power wheel as the stock spring is always under tension. I have not done this to my condor so have no experience on it. I want power and have my wheel at six and forget about it. If you are looking for a little more in shot count or are shooting inside it may help some.
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Although, I do not have a Condor, I got into this spring thing on my Talon. After about a month of trying to get adjustability out of it, I decided it was a lost cause. For high speed shots, I use the regular air tank, for lower speed, I use CO2. I also got more change using an ORING on the valve.
I believe, in wanting more speed and power, the adjustment in the design was lost.