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@Ed, you may be underestimating yourself 😛
See, I can’t even get the Smilies to work…
Degrees are useless these days!
Dear Charlie,
I would not buy an airgun from myself either!
And an additional feature of owning an Edgun is that you can actually speak with the man that made it, Ed. Who happens to be a very open about his affairs. But this is not the “norm…”
Imagine Apple Corp. explaining to its customers how much their iPhones actually cost and why they charge what price for it in a certain country! Its stock price would take a nose dive.
Finally, I fully agree with you that it is all for the better that Ed operates in this manner. However, in this specific case I felt the urge to support him. Maybe I should have phrased it better.
No bad feelings, I hope.
Kind regards,
Hans
I always try to explain as I still believe that I have much more clever people around and work for them 🙂
If you were ED, I wouldn’t buy anything from you. We like Ed’s gun, not only his gun, we like the way he communicate with us.
Dear ED,
I have an PHD in Business Economics and in my humble opinon you need not explain to anyone why your airguns cost what they cost, and why you charge what for them. At the end of the day, you bear all the risk, so you are entitled to all upside benefits.
Your products are great and of excellent quality. Moreover, there seems to be a constant shortage of them…
So, you deserve to make good money!
Kind regards,
Hans
The EUR to RUB exchange rate has taken a pounding over the last year. USD to RUB is down a lot but fared slightly better. USD to EUR changes is only marginal. Assuming that the Leshiy is made in Russia, I’m curious to know how much of a cost savings removing the case and switching to plastic parts saved? Less than 5% in cost or closer to 10% that the end consumer will actually see in sales price. Anyone know if within Russia Ed has distributors or sells direct?
All Leshiys made totaly in Russia, including plastic details. They are delivered to Estonia completely assembled and Andrey (my man in Estonia) just take a barrel to them. I explained earlier why I had to work via Estonia to the clinets out of Russia, in short — idiots at the all levels of authorites in Russia, including Custom office, so no problem to send Leshiy as “uncomplete gun” without a barrel out of Russia, but if I install barrel here — the situation will be changed dramatically, I had such an experience and have no intention to repeat it one more time.
The funny thing is, when roulbe dropped down we were very frustrated as a lot of things are connected to the goods bought for currency. They we stabilized and found the balance. It here we go again, rouble goes up and we are in trouble again 🙂 It is not the inflation level we passed throug 30 years ago when it was 1000 percent a year, or 20 year ago when it was 200 percent for a month but not comfortable at all. I understand why Chinise, is they want to wish somebody bad luck, say “Wish you to live in the time of changes!”…
Sorry ED, as you have stated many times, I can buy some where else. :confusedn: Great advice.
Regards
LarryW :suprisedn:
Free man in a free contry, I always say I never force anybody into buying my guns. And I said before and repeat it again, if nobody will buy it for the price I consider reasonable it is better to stop making them rather then sell them for price less then it cost to produce them.
may I ask you how much has been the price increase of your other guns because of the appreciation of the ruble over the dollar?
Thanks.
I leave the price for Matador and Veles at the same level as they are completely set to production and are produced with huge number of parts, thus I can keep the price. As for the new guns, which will come in this year, I hope, I doubt that the clients will be happy with the price as I will calculated them in a diffrenent way. But it rouble goes up again I am afraid I will raise the price for our of Russia in euro for Matador and Veles as well.
Cheers.
As always you can always see the situation at the Central Bank of Russian Federation web page.
Today is 10th of February 2017.
https://www.cbr.ru/currency_base/daily.aspx?date_req=10.02.2017
1 USD (code of the currency 840) cost 59.02 roubles.
1 Euro (code of the currency 978) cost 63.02 rouble.
The same day, but one year ago:
https://www.cbr.ru/currency_base/daily.aspx?date_req=10.02.2016
1 USD (code of the currency 840) cost 78.68 roubles.
1 Euro (code of the currency 978) cost 88.04 rouble.
From 25 up to 28 % of the diffrence (USD, Euro)
Let’s go back to the time when Matador cost 1’600 USD, say 2012
https://www.cbr.ru/currency_base/daily.aspx?date_req=10.02.2012
1 USD (code of the currency 840) cost 29.67 roubles.
1 Euro (code of the currency 978) cost 39.47 rouble.
Now calculate: twise differnce.
Any more questions regarding it?
The EUR to RUB exchange rate has taken a pounding over the last year. USD to RUB is down a lot but fared slightly better. USD to EUR changes is only marginal. Assuming that the Leshiy is made in Russia, I’m curious to know how much of a cost savings removing the case and switching to plastic parts saved? Less than 5% in cost or closer to 10% that the end consumer will actually see in sales price. Anyone know if within Russia Ed has distributors or sells direct?
We live in a globalised world and we all know the prices of a regulator, a barrel, a stock, etc for a regular customers that certainly are much different of those of a big volume manufacturer and adding up everything I just don’t believe that a fluctuation of 5-10% could cause a risk of bankruptcy to anybody in the selling chain.
Now we are not only living in a globalised but also in a free world and every manufacturer can freely and legitimately put the price tag he wants on his products but please….. don’t say you don’t have enough margin to make profit.
Enthusiasts will buy anyway, this has been proven over time, so please stop the drama.
C’Mon, how many times have you seen Edguns in stock?
But Ed is free to price his guns as he likes.
It’s just that I don’t see the need of an Netflix episode…
When people talks I try to understand and I did not understand. …
Where are the bulk of the Leshiy manufactured? Mother Russia aka Karelia or in Europe aka Estonia? All the pics I’ve come across shows it stamped “made in Russia”. When are the Gen2 expected to go into manufacturing? I assume Ed has switched over and only produces Gen2 now and we’ll see them hit the market in March/April timeframe?
The EUR to RUB exchange rate has taken a pounding over the last year. USD to RUB is down a lot but fared slightly better. USD to EUR changes is only marginal. Assuming that the Leshiy is made in Russia, I’m curious to know how much of a cost savings removing the case and switching to plastic parts saved? Less than 5% in cost or closer to 10% that the end consumer will actually see in sales price. Anyone know if within Russia Ed has distributors or sells direct?
All this talk on the price of things (agaaaain) is absolutely boring.
Leshiy was the most expensive air rifle I’ve bought but it was the only brand new pcp I’ve purchased.
But I decided I wanted it
Nobody is forced to buy it, whether it cost 500 or 1500
I joined here to read about others findings with their Leshiy, what they’ve found works and to get ideas such as scopes. And in general just enjoy reading about people’s outings.
What if he has hundreds of guns already produced? Same price, Pippo.
More plastic, no hard case, same price, where is the bummer?
It’s not a price hike, it’s just that you get less for your money.
No hard case, lower shipping costs, the only hike I can see is the profit hike.
Are you saying Ed lied and the Currency change is a scheme?
Caution with the word “liar” my friend.
Currency change happened and Ed took the opportunity to raise the price of the Leshiy.
How much it was an “opportunity” or how much it was a “need” this we will learn once we know the price hike of his other guns.
Cheers.
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Oh! Now they do work!
I better shut up for a while..