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Shoebox complete with Joe’s hose

I have been filling my Pygmee bottle, which gives me 3 fills in the field, it is handy but it has a limited capacity.

I had purchased a few months ago, a 14 year old 44 cuft scba tank off of Ebay for less than 100 bucks, but I still needed a fill hose.

Monday I bit the bullet and sent Joe Brancato a USPOMO for a hose set, today I got it. Joe is said to be one of the best guys in the industry and the sport to deal with, my dealings with him did nothing to change that reputation, he is great to deal with.

As I type this I can hear that sewing machine sound in the background, as it fills my 30 minute tank. I figure it will take 10 hours to fill from empty at a 450 PSI per hour rate.

But once full, I will have 17 refills for the Condor, on extended hunting trips I will have 20 full refills and a handy Pygmee bottle to pack on my belt or in a pack. It will take 3.3 hours to fill from 3000 PSI to 4500 PSI once it is in use.

I have gotten on the list to get one of the new 58 caliber rifles from XP-airguns, so this set up will come in very handy.

I have the Shoebox on a timer, for three hours to allow for lubrication. I had to change out the moisture filter, I bought a new one at Harbor Freight today for $9.99, I need to get one I can recharge. The first one lasted me two months, that is about 2 or 3 thousand shots. But our humidity runs around 85% or better most of the time here.

Make sure your moisture trap is on the Shoebox end and that you have a long line from your shop compressor to the Shoebox, this allows the air to cool down and the moisture to be drawn from it easier.

Here is my semi complete setup.

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Roachcreek… what are the novels about?

(how about answering this in a new post? It is a bit off topic from this thread… 😆 😆 )

Are they finished or still in the proof-reading/editing stage?
Please tell us what are they about and if you have them in electronic copy, copy and past/post a short excerpt for us to preview.

You certainly have a lot of life’s experiances to use as reference…

Revwarnut

Eddie,

I hope you don’t think I am writing this for pity, but you asked.

In 1979 I was the victim of attempted murder on two different occaisions, in that fine City of Portland. In February I was involved in a court house shooting that left two dead. In March of that year a burglar jumped on me and tried to cut my throat, he missed my jugular by a fraction of an inch, he had brought a knife to a gun fight, he missed, I however did not.

Then in November during a race riot where my partner and I had to fend off 20 or more angry black gentlemen, one of them who had been recently paroled, picked up a 70 lb formica and steel folding bench and threw it thru the air, it hit me in the left temple, and it shattered my skull.

I recieved from that injury and the other incidents, a pension for the rest of my life, recurring mirgraine headaches, about two to three every week for years, brain damage and post tramatic stress syndrome and nightmares that I still have to this day.

Eventually I lost the vision in my left eye due to the effects of the migraines.

That is how I ended up living in the only house in 110 square miles, my wife of 24 years left me and we divorced and I lived as a hermit there for 3 more years.

When I found myself being involved in one accident after another, either with breaking horses or riding rv’s or running equipment, where I was getting additional concussions. I decided to live closer to town and find a woman who would care for me when I get to the slobbering stage, so I sold that place to of all people a Dr who specializes in head inuries and lets me or my family stay there when ever we want..

I suffer from the same condition that pro football players do, in that I have had many concussions now and am not the sharpest tool in the shed anymore, that and the effects of a shrinking thalamus from PTSS, have left me on the fringes of senality.

I learned over the years that certain things triggered the migraines, such as nitrates in foods like my favorite, pizza, and bacon and just about anything with wheat flour. Also anything that causes differences in atmospheric pressure, like airline flights, thunderstorms. And loud noises, like loud gunfire and the pressure wave that results from it and blows to my head, like the recoil impulse of heavy rifles, martial arts ect..

I dearly love to long range shoot and competed in 1000 yard matches monthly, but after each blackpowder rifle match, within 48 hours I would go blind and be in intense pain from a migraine for a day or so.

That last elk I killed, the next day, helping my buddy, the one who had the stroke, try to get his elk, I got a migraine and went blind in my one remaining eye for the rest of the day, unfortunately I was miles from my truck.

The blast wave from my 40 glock or a 9mm or any high intensity cartridge would do it also.

Medicine that helped them either had terrible side effects or was illegal at the time, in either case a stiff price must be paid at some point.

So my son has most of my guns, my daughter has my Glock and I shoot airguns, fly only if it is needed to , but I have found one piece of vegetarian pizza without the processed meats will avoid headaches, so far…

I am hoping that the recoil impulse of the large bore air rifles will be mild enough to not trigger the headaches, if not, then I will be slinging arrows at them.

So to combat memory problems, I exercise strenuously, I literally do math in my head, I dance a lot with the wife to try to keep my balance sharp and I write a lot, two unpublished novels and I shoot those airguns daily, and I live in a peaceful enviroment.

Regards,

Roachcreek

nice elk Roach I been out in Colorado a few times and it is alot of work but man the Elk I got were the best as far as eating, I enjoyed them alot! Looks like you have a great place to hunt, My grandfather live in Oregon Portland, we were there a few times when I was little, I always regreted not going to see him more he was a great guy my Mom’s Dad. Very nice State as I remember it. How did you end up into air gunning with all that land and distance I figured you would have high powers and spotting scopes 😯 as I am sure you do looks like a fun place! Eddie

Lurker,

My Pygmee is a discontinued tank from Airhog, it is roughly 7.5 cuft, or a little less than half of your Guppy.

The guage that Joe puts on these is of such higher quality and easier to read, that I suspect you will forget you have a guage on the ETAC, at least for filling anyway.

Filling from a small tank to the ETAC is a very easy and quick task.

I had trouble getting my Shoebox to keep running last night after about 6 hours of use.

I shut it off each 3 hours to lube, and then after the 6 hour shutdown to lube, it wanted to shut off every 5 to 10 minutes. It is hot and I think that expands the parts to where it leaks more thru the pistons, this morning it cooler and it is running fine.

I do have a leak in the upper cylinder, I posted last night about it on the Shoebox forum, and this morning I have a reply from Tom Kaye that I probably need to replace the O rings in both cylinders.

So it appears that I am about to become very intimate with the Shoebox. Something anyone who buys one will need to do, part of the package for those of us who do not have 3 grand to drop for a big compressor.

Regards,

Roachcreek.

RC,

I just ordered the Guppy tank from Joe Brancato. Is that the same 17cf capacity as your pygmee?

I figure I’ll get maybe 5 or more refills for my AF tank.

The Guppy comes with a 2″ glycerin filled gauge but I got to thinking how hard or easy it will be to fill the AF tank to 3000 or less.

I guess I’ll have to watch the E-TaC Gauge for that fill pressure. Luckily it’s within 150 PSI of both my Hill and AF hand pump gauges.

Is it easy to judge the shut off valve to get the correct fill?

RC,

I just ordered the Guppy tank from Joe Brancato. Is that the same 17cf capacity as your pygmee?

I figure I’ll get maybe 5 or more refills for my AF tank.

The Guppy comes with a 2″ glycerin filled gauge but I got to thinking how hard or easy it will be to fill the AF tank to 3000 or less.

I guess I’ll have to watch the E-TaC Guage for that fill pressure. Luckily it’s within 150 PSI of both my Hill and AF hand pump guages.

Is it easy to judge the shut off valve to get the correct fill?

Benneeboy,

Not in Oregon.

Roachcreek

nice! can you use crossbow?

Benneboy,

Almost all my elk, maybe with the exception 6 or 7 out of 50 have been killed within a mile of that house. So getting back to recharge should not be too big of a problem.

The last several years I hunted them, it was with Sharps rifles using big cast bullets, so I hunted in the thick stuff where I had cut trails thru the mountain mahoganey.

If I do not draw a tag, I will hunt with a bow and just sit in a blind all day on one of the trails and read and wait, still within 400 to 500 yards of the house.

Last time I hunted there was 4 years ago, it took me less than an hour to get a spike down and gutted out after starting the hunt. Two shots with a 270 WSM in a Mdl 70 and a 2×8 Leupold with the Boone and Crocket reticle. First shot was prone at 408 yards, that anchored him, 2nd shot broke his shoulders, off hand at 98 yard.

It took a bit of work to reach him with my 6×6 Polaris, but beat quartering him and packing him out.

My hunting partner had a stroke the next year, after than I hunted the Coast range, but different elk and different hunting, none of it to my liking so it put a damper on the hunting, time to go after them again.

I killed this 6×6 700 yards from my front door, off hand at 25 yards.

Regards

Roachcreek

SWEEEETTTTT!!!!

Damn it, i need a shoebox

Yeah Joe is the man! I have 44cf SCBA and micro fill hose from him. Nice stuff. How far do you plan on going from the old spot? You might could charge her up and go no worries. If you need more than 2 shots you suck and should have used a BMG and been done with it lol =)

Jerry,

Yeah that Pygmee is not going to fill it too many times is it, so no buffalo stands with that one.

Yes I do have the capability to fill the Pygmee with the 30 minute bottle, the Pygmee’s bleed system is connected with a male female connection, when disconnected it leaves a male fitting on the Pygmee, which can be attached to the 30 minute female connection. I even used once to top off my scuba tanks when I still had them.

From what I read, the 58 has been operating at 4100PSI, but being as it is new gun, treading unknown territory,what I read could be outdated fast.

I will be hunting on foot, out of my old house most likely, and it has a solar electrical system that I designed and built, it would run all of this if needed.

I am thinking a 2×7 Leupold on that 58, with the LR duplex, so that would give me three known ranging points, sight in the crosshair at 100 yards and then see where the two dots hit.

I used to cast those huge Diablo pellet looking 12 guage slugs , too bad they don’t make those for the 58, what a trip it would be to knock over a spike with a steroid pellet like that. But there are so many fine projectiles for the 58 and molds that are cheap.

Regards,

Roachcreek

That’s a nice set-up. Do you have the hose to fill the pygmee from the 44? On extended trips you still won’t want to lug anything bigger than the pygmee into the field.

How do you plan to set-up or tune your .58? I saw some stats and it will likely make great power but the numbers showed 4500psi fills for the huge power IIRC. If you go on a trip with a 4500 psi tuned gun, you will have 0 fills if the pygmee and 44 are at 4500psi (unless you exceed that limit). Since you’ll be looking to shoot something big with the .58 and not get a bag full of squirrels, it probably doesn’t matter as much but nonetheless, you might want to look at a tune for the big gun that works at a 3800-4000psi level so you still have a properly sighted in and known power gun in case you miss the first day or have the chance to shoot another trophy before heading home to the shoebox!

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