Small scope with chevron reticle?
What do you think, would this scope be a good match for a compact bullpup?
http://www.vectoroptics.com/Vector-Optics-Mustang-SCOC-02-Scope-Product.html
How about that chevron reticle, it kind of looks like it could be useful with the loopy trajectories we have at longer ranges?
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Reason…These were designed for the 5.5/.223 got 100 yard, and further, shooting.
I don’t believe they are functional for air guns. Just too hard to see, and the calculating up to 600 yard feature is useless.
I can’t say anything about this specific scope, but all you have to do is find out what MOA (or MIL) the marks correspond to and you can plug in the equivalent for what whatever you are shooting. For example, I asked Trijicon what the markings were for the Acog TA11J, and they told me:
The 3 is 5 MOA
The 4 is 9.3 MOA
The 5 is 14.8 MOA
The 6 is 21.9 MOA
etc
This allows me to estimate drops on a .22LR zeroed at 50yds:
3 (5MOA) 95 yards
4 (9.3 MOA) 124 yards
5 (14.8 MOA) 158 yards
6 (21.9 MOA) 200 yards
You could get something similar for your pellet gun ballistic conversion; you just memorize the points or carry a little card, and estimate in between. It’s a little more work, but it’s not hard.
Of course, this is separate from the question of how good the glass is, how well you can see the reticle and generally how much you like that particular style of scope and how well it fits your purpose. For pellet gun hunting, I like to have more magnification, up to around 16x if I’m shooting 50 yards or more. 4x is o.k., for close stuff, but once you get get to 50 yards or more, 4x leaves you with a pretty small target if you are trying to do a precise shot on small game. But I’m 55 and my eyes are getting worse all the time . . . .
That one looks fine too but it´s also quite long and heavy. Looks good for airgunning though if the optics are as you say.
I have two BSA Tactical 4-14×44 FFP scope and I love them!
They track well, Clear glass and they are made my Falcon. Same scope, but different turrets.
Great deal on sale for $250 at MidwayUSA http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456482/bsa-tactical-mil-mil-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-4-14x-44mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-first-focal-mrad-reticle-matte
O.K.The big issue with those Vector´s is the shear weight. I quess you won´t be satisfied with the old-school mil-dot ??
The smallest – and dare i say it – fine working scope i´ve had on my EdGun was the Leapers Bug Buster.
I have the Delta 4.5-30 on my .25 WST and it´s perfectly sized to that gun , and actually even for the .22 Standard , but it would maybe look a bit out of place on anything smaller – like iex a Compact.
http://natur.astrosweden.se/delta-optical-titanium-45-14×44-ffp-hft/20141-0
http://natur.astrosweden.se/delta-optical-titanium-45-30×50-ir-sf-mcz-ii/20146-0
Japanese scopes made by Light Optical Works – in Japan.
Those scopes would go like 4-6″ past the shroud in my Viking 😆 I was looking for a small scope that would have predefined aiming spots for longer ranges. Those would be good for longer pups I suppose.
:dito: … Or – since you´re located in Europe take a long,good look at these two. One is a FFP reticle and the other is not but the optics and mechanics can´t be beat for the price..
http://natur.astrosweden.se/delta-optical-titanium-45-14×44-ffp-hft/20141-0
http://natur.astrosweden.se/delta-optical-titanium-45-30×50-ir-sf-mcz-ii/20146-0
Japanese scopes made by Light Optical Works – in Japan.
Search G2DMR reticle. Awesome.
Reason…These were designed for the 5.5/.223 got 100 yard, and further, shooting.
I don’t believe they are functional for air guns. Just too hard to see, and the calculating up to 600 yard feature is useless.
Yes, I know it is designed for 5.56 Nato round. What I was wondering is if those dots and marks fit air gun trajectories at airgun ranges. It might be easier to pick one of those aiming points rather than starting to count mildots when shooting at longer ranges. I know I’ve missed a couple of shot opportunities when trying to figure out which mildot to use at what range.
The size of the scope is also good, I could put that scope on my Viking and transport the gun in a briefcase.
True enough, and a good point.
However, those aiming points are very very fine, and personally they are difficult for me to quickly acquire.
I currently use a SightMark, and although a heavy scope, it’s 4-16 power range is excellent for the distances most of us shoot. I have found in a number of sub $500 scopes that at higher magnifications of 20, 25, 30 power, the image grows darker, looses clarity, and seems to give a reduced clear center of lens, with the outer edges being dim and out of focus.
Rather than spend a small fortune for a scope with clarity at high power, that I will never use, I keep my top power at 16X, and have excellent results. Guys like
Tedd, who are true marksmen, and match shoot at long distances, need every advantage possible and an investment in a top quality scope pays big dividends in results.
I would love to have one of those newer scopes with the built-in laser range finders. To me, that is a great advancement in technology…also in price!
Reason…These were designed for the 5.5/.223 got 100 yard, and further, shooting.
I don’t believe they are functional for air guns. Just too hard to see, and the calculating up to 600 yard feature is useless.
Yes, I know it is designed for 5.56 Nato round. What I was wondering is if those dots and marks fit air gun trajectories at airgun ranges. It might be easier to pick one of those aiming points rather than starting to count mildots when shooting at longer ranges. I know I’ve missed a couple of shot opportunities when trying to figure out which mildot to use at what range.
The size of the scope is also good, I could put that scope on my Viking and transport the gun in a briefcase.
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Could you please let me know which scope with feature FFP do you prefer for air guns for both target practice and hunting between 30 mtr to 150 mtr?
please let me know about some brands, but not very high valuable scopes,,,
Reason…These were designed for the 5.5/.223 got 100 yard, and further, shooting.
I don’t believe they are functional for air guns. Just too hard to see, and the calculating up to 600 yard feature is useless.
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Reason…These were designed for the 5.5/.223 got 100 yard, and further, shooting.
I don’t believe they are functional for air guns. Just too hard to see, and the calculating up to 600 yard feature is useless.
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[quote=”Sir Ville”]O.K.The big issue with those Vector´s is the shear weight. I quess you won´t be satisfied with the old-school mil-dot ??
The smallest – and dare i say it – fine working scope i´ve had on my EdGun was the Leapers Bug Buster./quote]
Ditto on the Bug Buster series of compact scopes. I’ve owned 4X, 6X, and 3-9X. Every one of them was bright, crisp, accurate, and priced so anyone could afford them. If they had a 3 x 12 or a 4 X 14, or a 4 X 16, I’d own one now. I had them on short range guns, and I never owned one that I didn’t like!
Right now, my .25 caliber calls for some extra power because my range is much extended. My Sight Mark 4 X 16 is doing the job. Weighs a lot, but is crisp and bright, so I won’t complain. Besides, I use a bipod so who cares. Being on fixed income, I can’t afford a Ted in Madison quality scope, but there are plenty of others out there that get the job done for me.
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