Talon SS accuracy.
I still don’t know which airgun I’m going to get. It seems like the main options are AA S200, AA S400, and Talon SS. I keep reading that the AAs are great out of the box, but they’re also more expensive than a Talon SS, which has a lot of potential, but it isn’t so great out of the box. From the designs of the three, I think the Talon SS has the best because :
-It looks cool
-It’s tough and can handle abuse
-It’s lightweight and compact
So…
I was thinking get a Talon SS tuned (will this be as accurate as an out of the box AA?) for the same price as an AA out of the box.
How long will it take to get tuned? Months?
What are your suggestions on this?
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A buddy and I shot our Talon SS guns this afternoon for a couple hours. Paper targets at 165 feet. Our really bad groups (5 shots) were about 3/4 inch. The better ones were inside the width of a dime.
We then put up our standard targets – 3/4 inch candy suckers. We easily broke 4 out of 5 without missing and this was at 165 feet. The guns are way better than we are.
You’re in for quite a surprise.
You can take the word you have called “accurate” all this time with the guns you have had and toss that word out the window (along with those guns….LOL)
Your new word to add with a PCP will be “Insanely accurate”. Just this afternoon with my Talon SS, I was sitting under the carport BBQ’ing and spotted some birds in the pasture behind the house. Killed 3 out of 4 that I shot at and then got to wandering what the distance was. Laser range finder gave me 67 yeds to the tree they were in.
Any PCP will be more accurate than a crosman 2100….
You’ll be surprised at the accuracy out of any of the guns you mentioned.
Thanks guys, this gives me a better idea of what I want. I guess I’m just scared of buying ANOTHER airgun and it turning out to be a piece of crap.
Though….. All of the airguns I’ve bought so far haven’t costed over $180. I own a lame Airmaster 77 (crosman 2100) and it’s pretty accurate at 20 yards compared to any other airgun I’ve ever owned. It’s accurate enough to shoot a five shot group at one inch. LOL. Which is way better than my other airguns. I’m just scared that this will happen again. No matter what PCP I buy, will it be more accurate than my other (crappy) guns?
Julien
Best thing I ever bought for the AA 410 to keep it from getting screwed up is the bipod.
I never have to lean it anymore or lay it on the ground. Now I open up the bipod and it is fine. Also if you are going to be bush wacking wrapping it in camo cloth is a good idea.
Yeah…. it sucks on the AA cos theres that awkward little dial you have to use to go from 4 to 30 fpe… 😆
Just messing with yah… I agree, its nice to go from a 12″ .177 all the way up to 24″ .25 and totally change the feel of the gun.
And like others said. I love my 410 so much I’m afraid to use it. My SS breaks down and gets shoved in a pack and laid in the dirt (ok… thats an exageration.. i lay on on bushes etc) and used all the time and I dont worry about it.
No one mentioned this, but just by changing barrels, you can take an SS from mild to wild. With the 12″ .177 barrel, 20 fpe is easy. Just by changing to a 24″ .22 barrel, you can more than double the power. And that’s leaving everything else stock. Good as the Air Arms guns are, ain’t a one of them that can pull that trick off :-)! Start modding one, and the sky’s the limit. I went from 5 springers to 1 Talon SS, now I want another Talon just so I don’t have to keep swapping barrels around. Later.
Dave
Get yourself an SS, you won’t look back. Accuracy is not an issue,and pointability(is that a word?) of the SS is second to none. I like the other choice also,but, as described, it’s not something I’d want to own as a trophy. I want to shoot my rifle,let others shoot it ,without fear that someone “rubs it” the wrong way. If you look at resale, Air Force products ,get the price asked. You can’t lose.
Since you didn’t mention it, it may not matter to you, but the take-down ability of the Talon is what sold me. Having a gun that can fit in a back-pack when heading into the woods is great!
Good luck,
Lorrin
If we’re just talking about accuracy and reliability, I think your comcerns on the Talon SS are unfounded. I own 2 Talon SS and 2 Condors and I can shoot with any of the guys who come around here and shoot with us that own Daystates, AirArms, Theobens, etc. Yes, those are beautiful guns and extremely well made, but I’ve never had a tune of any kind and my Talon shoots just as accurate as their guns do. And… it’s lighter and gives me less reason to worry about scratching or dinging anything.
All I’ve done to any of my AF guns is just to clean the barrels when I first bought them. That’s it.
My only recommendation if you really want great, repeatable accuracy, is to buy a good scope.
Come on Julien,
Just pony up and get a gun. If money is an issue get the Talon SS if you have more to spend get the AA 400. But you need to get something. If I was your age and had the money I would buy the 400. But remember you need mounts, scope and take and fill adapter.
The Talon SS is hard to beat on price for what you get. Put some accushot high mounts and a leapers scope and you are set.
I have both, the Talon SS and an AA S410 carbine. My first was the AA and I could not have been more surprised at how accurate it is. Then got the SS and was never expecting it to keep up with the AA, but again I was surprised.
What I will tell you though if it helps to decide, the AA is such a beauty with great wood, that I am afraid to take it out for fear of putting a ding in the wood. No worries with the SS and it has now become my go-to gun for all occasions. I’ve even mulled it over to sell the AA due to it just sitting and looking pretty and getting another SS.
I bought a new Condor in 2004, I then bought a used SS in 2005 and I JUST got an AA410E SL (same as the 400, but a multishot).
I had some issues with the new Condor and had to return it to AF to get something done so it would shoot full power. When it came back it was fine. I upgraded it from the delrin barrel bushings (holds barrel) to aluminum when I got a .25 barrel and that increased the accuracy a lot.
The SS has always shot perfectly, I even managed a 3 shot group at 50 yards which had all the pellets touching. I got scared and didnt want to try a 4th, lol.
The AA is VERY well made… everything is perfect with it. but like you said it costs more.
The newer AF rifles are a LOT better than the older ones. I never noticed any problems with my Condor, but plenty others have and the newer valve in them is MUCH improved. The SS have never really had any problems and most shoot very well out of the box.
The main issues I had were the delrin barrel bushings, they have now changed over to Aluminum so thats fixed too.
I’d keep my 410 over any of my other guns…. but dont let poor preformance out of the box dissuade you from buying an SS as they shoot fine without any messing around.
If you planning on buying an SS and then paying for a tune… I’d just get the AA400…
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Yep. That’s exactly what I thought. When I shoot the first pcp I’ve ever shot, I think I’ll be amazed. I still want to try to make it to the FT club kind of near here to get a taste of what I’ll be getting. I’ve been trying for over a month now and something has come up every time, but I’ll keep being persistent.
Thanks again,
Julien