Talon SS Micro…..(pics)
Here is a TSS with micro tank and six inch custom shroud….
Very quiet..
Shoots around 12-13 FPE with Crosman Premieres
A little verical stringing here but accuracy was very good.
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Found a pic of one of the Titanium valves I made with the “jet” insert, never heard back from the recipient on how it worked ð
Jim.
Gettng Micro performance from other valves…I made some threaded inserts a while ago but no one ever tested them to my knowledge. I used Stainless set screws and drilled different size holes in them and you could switch out for different powers on the one piece valves. I think Leupy and someone else had made them before me as I got the idea from somewhere… Leupy also made one that also had a set screw way up in the stem that did the metering right at the ports. By turning the set screw it covered them up some and was reported to be very accurate and consistant. I think the valve was actually made for a .177 Field Target project?
There were kind of 2 benefits from the jet/setscrew design in that it metered the air and also helped close the valve very quickly since the set screw acts like a parachute. Opening and closing the valve as quick as is necessary to get the desired performance increases the air use efficiency.
I’m experimenting with shims behind the tophat now and it looks promising as well as Leel’s info on him using a rubber washer for a shim to limit the valve travel he is getting VERY consistant low power shooting from his Talon valve. Micro shot count is easily changed out to higher power with only the removal of a shim.
Anthony, Just saw the Fluted breech slide SWEET man that looks very, very nice! another really nice custom touch.
Jim.
Great idea
Cool, You can steal it if you want ð
That would work Amigo…..
Great idea
The only difference with the Micro is an etremely restrictive valve spring retaining screw. The airflow port looks only a couple thousanths big.
Next one I have apart, I will get a pic of it.
So Tony if someone wanted to they could drill out the valve spring retainer, in a standard tank, and then thread it and insert a bolt with differing diameter airflow ports?
I guess what I am trying to say is you could modify a standard tank to be a micro and then back to standard. Is that correct?
Here is more info on the micro-tank…
Air Force Micro Meter Spare Tank
SKU#: A-U1047
Our Price: $170.95
Product Details
This tank can shoot up to 300 shots! (average is 200-300 per tank) Shoots at a reduced velocity (600 fps). This tank allows the rifle to shoot at low to mid level velocities with very low air usage. This allows the shooter to get hundreds of very consistent, quiet, and accurate low velocity shots for close in target work in the backyard. Pest control companies, who are concerned with over penetration and property damage when working indoors, are already lining up for this exciting new accessory.
http://www.compasseco.com/index.php?action=item&id=1080&prevaction=category&previd=8&prevstart=0
All AF rifles use a 490c tank.
The only difference with the Micro is an etremely restrictive valve spring retaining screw. The airflow port looks only a couple thousanths big.
Next one I have apart, I will get a pic of it.
Thanks, I did some looking around and all I could find was that all the tanks were the same size for the AirForce line…
Well another beauty by Tony, the tank collar is subtle and trick!
I’m saving for a tune up… ðŊ
The way I understand it is that the valve is different…more shots, less power.
What is the typical tank size for the Talon…. 0.5L?
How is the micro different?
Just wondering which tank I received and how to tell the difference…
Thanks
Jim
ANOTHER nice looking rig Anthony!
Have you tried shooting a lot of shots yet and see what kind of curve etc. it has?
Jim.
What about the stock hammer weight for condor?
love seeing your gun tony mate lovely .. ð
Stock hammer is 45 grams…..
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Very nice James,
I remember you doing a lot of testing on different type valves.
Mike the grips are made for me by Steve Corcoran.
Thanks, Tony