TalonSS poi Shift
Hi guys,
I’ve noticed that my Talon gives me poi shifts each time I go to the farm. I normally go by bike, so my rifle is in a backpack. When I assemble it, I have to take a few shots to get it on the spot again. Is this normal, I don’t have this problem with my Condor.
The barrel bushes are snug and tight-barrel is 12 inch. Its possible that the second hand scope I’ve fitted might be the problem.
Once zeroed the rifle performs flawlessly.
Any help appreciated.
Thanx Nick
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I used to have Poi issues, mine were cured by ditching the Leapers UTG scope and putting on a Hawke Airmax on one and a Bushnell legend on the other
My Talon only gives POI shift with the .177 (12″) barrel, when I fit the .20 barrel (18″) its fantastic. I think the end cap which also supports the barrel helps reduced poi shift as it is ‘secured’ in 3 places where the 12″ barrel only rests on the bushes-which is supposed to be enough to keep the barrel in position. I must add that the 12″ barrel has a much smaller diameter than the 18″ barrel.
Since I have a Talon (regular) I suppose the Mad Dogs stock will have to be the short one. Guessing the long is in fact too long.
Will the short MD stock stiffen the gun up same as the long?
I am learning to hold it lightly and that has helped a bunch. Also the addition of a bipod helps to keep a light grip.
Darryl
Mine did that quite a bit when I had the .22 barrel in it, but when I got a .25 barrel, and did not have any bushings for it, I ended up making a set from a couple of hard nylon spacers that had to be drilled, and slightly sanded to get them on the barrel. They were also damn tight going into the frame. I ordered a set of new bushings from Air Force, but since the gun is driving tacks right now, I’m not going to touch those bushings. I matched them up against a spare one of the nylon spacers I still have, and found the spacers were just a mm or .002 larger than the brand new AF bushings. I too will get my hands on one of those great stocks when the funding is right, but as others stated, after they “fitted” their bushings, some of the shifting stopped. Now I still jerk the damn thing from time to time, but if I do my part it shots exactly where I point it. Keep in mind, I’m currently limiting my shooting to around the 60-70 yard range max, because one that’s all the room I have at home, and I have not yet dropped in the hot rod valve that’s on it’s way. I do punch quite a bit of paper at 26 / 27 yards, call it 25 for most people, but it lasers out just past the 25 yard mark. The last serious group I shot was .271 C to C in 25 cal. I can live with that, the tree rats hate it. 😈
I’ve always liked the look of the Mad Dog stocks, I’ll order one sometime soon just because it looks good but benneeboy has got me thinking-i’ll check the scope aswell.
I’m guessing scope.
Go to the top of our opening page, Talon Tunes, and take a look at the Mad Dog Stocks. Problem cured! 😉
Thanx for the replies guys, I’ll have to figure out some way of eliminating this little issue. Its funny that the Condor with its long barrel doesn’t do the same, one would expect this even to a higher degree due to more leverage on the longer barrel.
Much appreciated,
Nick
X2 what Mike said.
Once we get past the brand loyality bulls shit you will find what a lot of us acknowledge that this is just one of the many AF quirks Nick, along with frame flex, a dangerous safety, a top hat that likes to work loose, screws that strip out of the frame, a………. and the list goes on.
But it is a damn fine 500 buck, powerful take down platform to mod.
RC
Most of us here have known this for a long time. AF Guns are famous for POI shifts from day to day. This is why many of us have put after market one piece stocks on them. It seems to cure the “years long” curse on these guns! 👿
If your Condor isn’t doing this, consider yourself lucky! 😉
The scope is a Nikko Sterling Airking (4-12×44), the turrets seem to be fine Jesse. I fitted new mounts last night and had a poi shift after my trip to the farm. I don’t have another scope to fit and see if that is the problem but I’m starting to feel that it is the scope. Hope I’m right.
Is it a tactical scope? Possible that the turrets are moving? I would think that if the scope is bad that it wouldn’t hold a zero at all. Where you are saying after zero is runs like a champ. Also check to see if the mounts are snug.
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This is very true.
Guys if you have everything snug and tight, good scope and technique if you still get POI shifts look to the barrel and pellet.
Frame flex will not affect your accuracy if you gently cradle your gun. THE GUN WILL FLEX IF YOU THE SHOOTER HOLD IT TO TIGHT.
The frame does not flex all by itself.
For some of you the gun might need the extra weight from a stock to stabilize the gun. A few pounds to a rifle can aid accuracy.
But if the frame is flexing it is the shooters causing it not the gun.
Light hands people…good technique.