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TeddGun

I was going to buy a Wolverine and make a .257” cal bull pup out of it and then FX blindsided me with the Boss!

I was lucky to get the last one that AOA received on their initial shipment. When it came in, I took it to the range and shot it. I did 5 shots each of, muzzle, 50 and 100 yard chrony shots and ChairGun said that the 46 grain 30 cal pellets had a BC of 0.0369.

I had already made a bull pup for a Royale and I hoped that the stock would fit on the Boss. The boss has a 3 inch longer air bottle so; I had to do some stock removal to get the boss to fit. I had had a few beers when I decided to make the Boss fit the Royale stock and it shows. That doesn’t really bother me as the Royale stock was my first attempt and I will do better the next time. I will make another stock for the Boss if my project works out to my liking.

The hacked up bull pup stock turns a 47 inch long Boss into a 35 inch long TeddGun.

Once I saw that the stock would work, I tore the Boss apart to see what I would need to modify to get it to shoot the .257 inch cast bullets that I am going to make for it. I have a Hart, 24 inch long, 1 in 14 inch twist, .250 bore-.257 inch groove, .560 inch OD barrel ordered for it.

I will need to have the screw on brass transfer port/barrel end cap reproduced in .257 cal and I will need a new .257 bolt made. I could not get the bolt out! I had the bolt out on the Royale and I think that I had to drive out all of the trigger assembly pins to remove the bolt. I do remember that it was a nightmare getting all of the parts in the right position so the pins could be drove back in!

Last Friday, the gun was almost completely disassembled when a couple of guys at work asked me to come out and shoot last Sunday. I didn’t have a chance to work on it Friday night. Saturday night, I tried to put the gun together and get it to shoot. FX has changed the trigger on the Boss and it took me around 5 hours to get the gun working in the Royale stock. It took a lot of fitting, woodworking and cussing to get it going!

I loaded everything up and went to my buds place. I had to sight it in at 50 yards. I knew that I would have to chrony and adjust the gun to get it to shooting 870 fps again. I also wanted to know how much higher I could go with it. It won’t go any higher than 870 without a stronger hammer spring or a reg adjustment.

After I got it sighted in, my BB gun buddy and I were having a blast shooting at 50 yards. He wandered off and came back and asked if the Boss would be able to hit small water bottles at 158 yards? I told him that it shouldn’t be a problem as I had printed out Chairgun scope caps for 20, 15, 10 and 6 magnifications for the Hawke 4026, 6-20 X 42 scope and taped them to the side of the gun, the charts would show the needed mag and mil/half mil dot sight point to be on at any yardage.

He grabbed the gun/tripod assembly and took it over to where the guys were setting up the water bottles. At 10 X, the last half mil dot was at 155 yards and I told him to hold a little under it, the shot was high and we needed to use a little above the last half mil dot. The BC of the 30 cal JSBs might be higher than 0.0369 that ChairGun came up with. Once we had the aim point figured out, we would hit the bottle almost every time!

The 5-6 PB guys there each had an impressive amount of weapons and they were taking at least 2-3 shots to hit the bottles. They couldn’t believe that a pellet gun was that accurate and they wanted to try it. Once we told them where the aim point was, they all could hit the bottles, even the ones that were already knocked down and only showing just the bottom of the bottle. A couple of 10-12 year old kids wanted to try and they hit the bottles also.

My BB gun buddy then asked how far away a crossroad sigh was. Two of us lasered it at 288 yards. I turned the scope down to 6 X and told him to try using the last part of the mil dot box, just at the bottom of the scope. He hit the sign! His 10-12 year old boy hit the sign! I know, I know: a crossing sign is diamond shaped and is probably 24 inches across. I drove down and looked at the sign. We were having variable 0-4 mph winds and the groups on the sign were around 10 inch horizontal and 4 inch vertical. All of the shots were off of my tripod setup.

Here is my tripod setup and my BB gun buddy giggling and getting ready to take another 288 yard shot. He did his best to run me out of air and pellets!

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Screw that sign,like we all haven`t seen hundreds of signs w/dozens of
PB holes.Vandalism,give me a break! :bow: I would love to shoot that
gun.mark

I actually cant read the yellow from here (work). Firewall has it blocked because it thinks the yellow contains Porn. LOL.

I wont argue with the Network Admin though.

OG,

When i read that REPLY on the Yellow, i just had to sit back and exhale then log off the net…….lol!

Sign says “Long haired freaky people, need not ap-*BLANGGG*…

What sign?

Thanks guys for not ripping up on me for shooting that poor defenseless sign!

After I got my Topic posted here, I copied it and put it on the Yellow.

The guys over there told me not to shoot signs as it was vandalism and “that kind of crap makes the rest of us look bad”.

I’m feeling pretty low and bummed out right now! 😳 🙄 😆

Congrats Tedd,Cool to see you pushing the limits.Great job!! 😀
You the “Boss” :5:

Tedd,

you have a great big set of gonads to “rip” into such a high end rifle like that. You are a “Frankensteinien” mad man…and I applaud you for it. Good luck finding that perfect balance between power, bullet, and shot count!

Congratz OG, we know all how much time you put into it…
So, I hope we can see very soon incredible results!

Hi Naser.

The R3 is more accurate at 100 yards. The Boss might have better long range accuracy because the heavier pellet seems to be less affected by wind. I might have to open the plenum up, if the reg can’t be turned up.

Doug, I didn’t know that Veral was going to send me some bullets cast from your moulds. I think that they will be way too heavy for the boss but, I will give them a try.

Tedd,

How would you compare the accuracy of the Boss Vs the Edgun R3 ?!
If you can’t get the regulator tweaked higher, try to measure the Plenum chamber size on the boss & make it bigger, I would say about 60-80cc. That will sure increase the velocity without upping the regulator.

I waiting on your molds to be done also. Veral had finished my molds but was going to finish yours before he shipped mine. He was going to throw some samples of your bullets in with my mold and some of mine in yours.

I think mine are 74 gr and 60 something.

Doug, I have Hart and TJ .257” barrels that I ordered for my Matador/swaged bullet experiment. The Hart barrel was smoother when I pushed a lead slug thru it and the Hart barrel costs 3 times more so: it must be better!

I will try a TJ barrel also. They have a 1 week lead time and I have plenty of time to order one! You never know unless you try.

Thanks Charlie!

I wanted to get this posted and PhotoBucket was down for around 1 1/2 hours. I am up way past my bedtime now!

Veral was supposed to ship my moulds last Friday and I will have my lead Monday. I have the casting station almost ready to go and I hope to have the other needed Boss mods done way before the Hart barrel comes in.

That Boss is one heavy SOB! If the 45 grain LBT bullets prove out to be accurate, I will try them in the R3 25 cal long/Hart .257” barrel setup that I currently have.

AOA won’t tell me how to turn the Boss regulator up for “safety and liability” reasons. I am beginning to wonder if they know how to turn the reg up. I have had the Boss reg out, thought that I knew how to adjust it but, I didn’t want to screw it up! If AOA won’t tell me, I will have to try on my own.

I know how to adjust the Matador’s reg and I know that I can get it to shoot 37 grain pellets at 950 fps. Veral is making my moulds to be “low drag” and I think that I can get the Edgun to push the 45 grain bullets at least at 825-850 easily. Once I get the LBT moulds in, I am going to send them off and have 2 of the 4 cavities modified into hollow points. Cedric says that doing that makes them 5 grains lighter. I will then be able to cast 40, 45. 52 and 57 grain bullets out of 2 moulds.

My R2.5, 25 cal shot the 37 grain EinJin pellets at 950 and got 60 regulated shots doing it. I don’t know how many regulated shots the Matador will get shooting a 40-45 grain bullets. I want to eventually find out. The Boss project is first on the list and I will see how it turns out. I have run into dead ends before; that seems to be the only way that I can learn. I just might have to give up on all of this and call Haley!

Ed won’t release his 9mm Edgun and I need something to play with until he does!

PS, my BB gun buddy buys all of my unwanted guns and he already wants to know what I want for the Boss!

Nice. How come you didn’t get a .257 barrel from TJ’s?

Wow.

I can’t wait until you start shooting that thing with cast 257’s Tedd.

RC

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