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RC!!
To think you had your hands on all those tits before breakfast. Those guys noticing you smelled like cows were just jealous. ” She was warm, my hands were cold…”

I have no problem with you. Might have looked twice at the milk knowing where your hands had been.

I had read that the first Hawke’s into the country were pretty terrible. Hawke made changes, but they will always have that history. I wonder if the old scopes are still being traded and resold? As for mine, its pretty sharp. However, those originals are in the back of my mind when I buy used.

I admit to liking higher magnification on guns with pin point potential. My favorite gun of all time is my rem 22-250 varmint. It was fun in a way that my wife will never understand to watch through the scope as ground hogs expired. The rifle off harris bipod barely quivered when shot. Ditto for the ground hogs. I hit all of them right in the neck, which is where i was aiming. Figured if I had the range wrong it would get em in the head or chest. Turns out I was never that far off on range. I have an itch to go prarie dog shooting even thought it is half a continent away. Those videos of PD hunts look like more fun than I have had in 20 years.

I have a Trij on order for one of my powder burners. In terms of Hawke the one I have is pretty nice – it is a sidewinder 30. I have a used one coming today – its a sidewinder tactical – 8.5 – 25 by 40 something. That said I got a pang of conscience the other day. I am going to try to avoid chinese stuff going forward. It is going to cost me, but where there is an option its a decision that I am going to try to keep. (good luck buying a laptop not coming from china). I would never knowingly buy a soccer ball made with child labor. Likewise I decided that I cant buy products from a country that has no clean air or water. Its exploits the planet in the same way child labor exploits children. No hybrid cars either. Check out the polution generated in manufacturing the batteries. Shipping raw materials around the globe twice..its crazy, but getting off track.

I really like the trij for its purpose. The swarovski z3 series is phenomenal. Not sure if they have models that focus to airgun distances. Do not look through one if you cant afford it. Nightforce are also good, Ive shot one once but not back to back with other choices so as to make comparison. Too expensive for me new, but they come up used from time to time. The SWFA SS scopes have the older models like I own a ss 10x for $300. They also have newer designs that are more expensive – like $1500. Reviewers are in love with these. The bushnell 6500 series also is on the brag list. From what I have read Leupold quality was standing still for awhile but have woken up and their products (already very good) are improving to another level – (of course these cost more). I must own 7 leupolds and have never had a problem with any of them, even the one that broke my fall when I slipped on a rock pile that was covered with ice. Bruised me and the scope, but we both work, more or less. Speaking of which, got to get back to it.

Damn good choice, my kid did some good work in the sand lot with the Acog and loved it.

I dearly love Leupolds, being an Oregoinan with family history in the state, and the fact that Leupold is a Oregon company, it comes as a natural for me.

And I have also killed over 45 Elk using Leupold glass, on various rifles of course, I did not beat them to death with the scopes :lol:, so I am jaded.

However, the other day, I fired a 5 shot group on my 260 yard metal target as it was getting dark, I could not make out the bullet impacts on the white painted portion with my Leupold VXIII.

So I thought I would try my 5×15 3200 Bushnell Tactical, with it I saw what I thought were the bullet marks that I could not see with the Leupold.

Today I walked down to the target and low and behold, what I thought were bullet impact marks, were actually screws holding on the metal. Niether scope would show the bullet impacts.

But the fact was the 3200 Tactical had a smidge better clarity I just wish it had the same 100 plus minutes of angle adjustment the Leupold has. It is also a AO which I wish the Leupold was, I find them easier to adjust for clarity. I suspect some of the difference is the fact that the Leupold is a 30 MM with a 40 MM objedtive.

Now the Hawke scope I had, would not come close to either, past 12 power it was blurry. The Millet I had was pretty clear up to 12 power, but I doubt it would have revealed the impact marks, plus it did not track, even after a trip back to Bushnell, who does the warrantee work on them. And both the Hawke and the MIllet were far too heavy, my Leupold 30 MM is probably lighter than the 3200 with the 1 inch tube.

Both the Millet and the Hawke are sterling examples of why your better off starting with a entry level scope in the $300.00 range, WITHOUT a lighted reticle. They represent what happens when the manufacturer spends money on a lighted reticle, which you the shooter does not need, instead of spending the money on better lenses.

Scopes like the Bushnell 3200’s and the SWFA sniper are examples of it done right in the $300.00 range.

The Leapers and Centerpoints, well yeah….

As far as the target, I fixed the problem by painting the entire target black.

Regards,

Roachcreek the scope whore 😉

On the Hawke that I had I never was able to mount the focus wheel very tight. It always slip on the nob no matter how careful I was. That meant scratching the knob and loosing the markings.

The Sightron S3 came without a focus wheel and without markings on the focus knob. So I bought an aftermarket wheel and laser-printed the markings on a self adhesive clear label. The mounting system is awesome. The most tight grip and stress free on the knob.

I always double check my markings with a rangefinder so this is another way to solve your problem.

I’ve always wanted one of these! It will focus down to 7.5 yards @ 10x and under 10 yards @ 50X 😀

US Optics is the only government issue/contract scope that most likely never sat atop the rail of any military sniper’s rifle. But if you want to drop 2700.00 and do an extensive review…by all means 😆

Check out these as well before biting on the Triji…

Leupold M4

SWFA SS

Bushnell elite tactical

Millet long range tactical (only 300.00 and good glass)

Hoot is correct, and at the danger of being regarded as a scope whore, I have to say again nothing beats fine simple optics, and Hawke shows us that again and again, nice reticles, nice software, poor clarity on high power.

By simple I mean, at any given price point, the scope that DOES not offer goodies like illuminated retilces and target turrents will be spending the money on clear optics.

This morning while shooting 150 yards, I could clearly see my 22 caliber holes….. on 14 power. I will put target turrents on my Leupold eventually, they are an asset, but I will have the factory add them on, however it will never have a lighted multi-colored christmas decoration hanging on the reticle. 😉 .

If Leapers is all a person can afford after dropping a lot of cash on a fine rifle, buy one and get to shooting by all means, but if you want the most capability out of your rifle, spend more money and get better optics.

I have heard nothing but good things about Trijicon.

You get what you pay for.

Regards,

Roachcreek

Can’t wait to hear more!