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TSS accuracy???

I have a 177 barrel that seems to be extremely picky about ammo. I know that different barrels/guns have preferences but this seems to be either is shoots groups or it shoots patterns. BTW this barrel seems to shoot crow magnums all over the place whereas they have been quite accurate in several of my other guns.

My bottom line is…I am just starting to tune this gun, do the tophat and pw settings and fill pressure make that much difference in accuracy?

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I don’t see how a TSS could have a barrel harmonic. Some have stated that the barrel is floated on an AF gun. I don’t get that. Floated barrels do not touch anything from the receiver forward, like the marauder and BSA guns for example.

Thanks for the insights guys. I am going to keep tinkering with tophat/PW settings for the Kodiaks and JSB exact jumbos and see what kind of groups I can get to. I am not really the type for maximum velocities. I shoot a lot of 100 yd .22 LR. Subsonic is where its at.

I handload all of my centerfire ammo so I do know about velocity consistency and its relation to accuracy. Do the AF guns seem to have a barrel harmonic that is even worth considering. I have the TSS and with the 12″ barrel it would seem that it should be negligible. For now I am figuring out where the settings take me in efficiency and velocity, once that is accomplished I will start dialing in settings from there for the best accuracy.

It’s true that different pellets like different velocities. It’s also true that different guns shoot the same pellet better at different speeds. Therefore, it seems to be individual. Tune for what your doing, (hunting/target shooting), tune for specific ranges, and tune for your specific gun/scope/pellet combination, (should I have mentioned also the scope rings?) Never a dull moment.

I’m always amazed the powder burner guys who buy factory ammo and expect it to shoot well from their gun. That ammunition is loaded to function safely in every gun that it might get loaded into. The same variables exist with pb ammo. There are acually more parameters to meet such as chamber dimensions and freebore. See how lucky we are that our airgun parameters are more limited? 😉

i did not see anyone mention velocity of a given pellet, most pellets are pretty fusy about the velocity that they will shoot best at.

So if you want to vary your velocity, then you can tune your gun to shoot a given pellet to it’s greatest potential.

Some pellets will just not print well out of there peak velocity range, others will print over a greater range of velocity, you have some great pellet recomendations already, and some great advise from the guys.

I am pleased that you enjoy the tinkering aspect. That should keep you from getting too frustrated. I think we get used to the idea of shelling out the bucks for the better quality airgund over time. The problem is that we don’t get a chance to try the better airguns. You have to know somebody who has a Datstate, or AirArms that doesn’t live accross the country. We are all so closely connected here in cyberspace, but so greatly separated geographically. It’s just a coincidence that Tofaz is just around the corner. That works out well.

I bought my sc beta model because that was the only brand that PA was stocking at the time. It was not user friendly, but I didn’t know any better because I had nothing to compare it to. Looking back, I am really quite greatful that they screwed me on the repair of my beta. That motivated me to try the ProChrono Digital model. I am much happier with the ProChrono. It doesn’t show the dreaded and never ending error messages and it is much more user friendly. I also really like the 99 shot strings that it will record. That is so much better than the 10 shots the sc would do.

I don’t know if i’ll get around to the disposable income level of say a Daystate or Edgun for a air rifle but who knows by the time I make all of the tweaks and alterations to my TSS I coulda bought a S410 at least proly.

I enjoy wringing out the last bit of performance out of my guns PB and Air. My Disco is shooting 1″ at 50 yards with the only aftermarket piece being a velocity adjuster.

BTW Steve: I did read the” buy the ProChono” but the ShootingChrony is borrowed and is making me 👿

This is why I refer to this adventure as the airgun journey. It begins with a Discovery, or a TSS and moves you along to AirArms, FX, Daysrtate, Theoben, etc.. You find yourself spending considerably more on “BB” guns than what you have spent on powder burners. Like I say, I can’t shoot a rat with a .308 on the fence between mine and my neighbor’s house. However, airguns filll the bill quite nicely.

Good Luck Killerfly! 😀

what is the cheaper sister product??? Wok wanna pm me a price on the wokbutt

Try a wok butt or the sister product that’s cheaper.

Thanks for the input guys. As far as accuracy goes I have a pretty high standard I shoot cans at 80 yards with my 177 Disco. I will adjust my technique and look into the trirail. A full stock would also remedy hold issues too it seems though a bit pricey.

The frames of the AirForce guns are flexi-flyers. If you gorilla grip the AF guns, you can make them flex enough to change the pellet’s impact from shot to shot. Hold your TSS gently; it will make a difference. The TriRail accessory from AF will stiffen your frame. Many people like them.

I now have many nice airguns, but I still like my .22 TSS. Its accuracy always impresses me. For a short and lightweight carbine, it shoots well. I’ll get 60 to 70 shots out of it when I am plinking soda cans. There is probably a noticable drop on paper, but I hit the cans with solid authority out to 25 yards. I’m very satisfied with my TSS. I accept the limitations of power, single shot, and having the scope mounted so high above the axis of the bore.

Mine shoots the Crosman Premiers very well.

Good Luck KF!

I just picked up a tin of JSB jumbos so we’ll see how they come out. I think they’re about the same weight as kodiaks. So far its promising.

I agree with Wok on the assessment and good pellets to shoot.

The pellet head size also factors into the accuracy. Our chokes barrels hate misshaped and large head sizes.

Try Kodiak, Kodiak HP, and the others that wok mentioned. Find a good one and hen buy 2000 rounds 🙂

Crow Magnums are known to have bad accuracy in most guns past 25-30 yards.

The best pellets to test most airguns are Kodiak, Crosman Priemeres, JSB

Usually one of those will show the true accuracy of your gun.

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