Tuneing condor for Amer field target,20Ft.#s,3 targets added
Well been playin around some more with the condor, setting it up for field target American style, 20 foot pounds, 14 grain pellets at 800 feet per second. Targets all 50 yards
fill 1800 pw 3.0 .073 top hat with oring ,14 .g crossman Pr
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crossman premier string 1900, .073 pw 3.3
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14 g jsb 1900 pw 2.0 .073 top hat with oring
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here is a string that i shot with crosman h.p. while trying to adjust up to 800 fps, top hat .068 fill to 1950 pw 4
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some targets while working on getting the gun in the sweet spot. 50y.
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http://www.airguns.net/trajectory.php
this is what i have been using , for trajectory chart ,it seems to be some what differant than the trajectories you posted.
I have thought about another frame for playing around to keep my 24” 22 set up for the shots of opportunity. but dont think i am going to do that , i will just use the gun however it is set up at the time.
Only shooting one gun has its advantages.
I have not set up targets at 10, 15, 20 , 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50 and shot to see and map out the actual trajectory of my gun at 800 fps with the round nose 14 grain jsb but i am going to just for kick’s
It would also be fun to get a competition going with targets at unknown distance with the field target rules.and post them , so we could shoot for scores against each other. Run what ya brung.
AHHHHHHHHH dont worry about it.PB, if your going to box , your going to get punched in the face, nobody starts out as world champ . you learn and advance , Its allllllllll part of the big picture baby. 😉
I just recently bought a 18 inch 177 barrel for my Condor . but the thing is I dont want my valve and bottle messed with . I want a seperate bottle for my 177 .
but things have been tight so i dont know when im going to get one .
I wanted to speak with Tony about a 177 tune for FT with a new bottle .
Im sure Tony could get it @ 900 fps consistantly.
at least thats where Im headed with it .
Now, I like my .22 for long range shooting , and im not so willing to give that up . It might be cheaper for me in the long run to just get a TX.
I checked chairgun and at 20 ftpds with a 30 yard zero :
an 8 grain has inch of drop at 50 a ten gr has 1.5 inches of drop at 50 at 950 fps or 20 ftpds.
a 15 grain .22 has 2.75 inches of drop
and the 15 grain needs to be around 750 FPS .
twice the room for error , plus the velocity drop doesnt make this a great choice for FT. IMHO.
The yellow forum has a section for FT and lists the places and dates
Try my new paper targets design for cal.177 and cal.20/.22/.25
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Hold over do you have a 177 air force. if you do lets get er tuned in for this field target thing. 😉
JSB , AA , and crosman make a 10 grain pellet for 177, so you could run them at 940’s , adjust your gun into this velocity at the peak of your curve and get 15 to 25 shots at top consistancy and see which pellet shoots the best.
I don’t have any idea where to look for a field target match, but by the looks of the rifles on line that the guys are shooting,it would be fun to go at it with them. dam $ 3000 rifles. ??
Dont know if i could compete , but it would be fun.
Hell i just might make my own field target course.
Excellent shooting! Id say you are there.
Like you said before the shot to shot consistancy is tough to master .
I still think that the 177 shoots flatter @50 yards with 900 fps then the .22 with 750-800 fps.
But overall still great shooting !! Now go win one for the TAG!!
shot a couple more targets tonight ,36 Yard
JSB 14.3
the string for this target , 36 yard 798sighter.809.804.803.805.//800sighter802.806.793.805//.796sighter796806794.797// 799sighter803.797.801.796
Good shooting! especially for low powererd .22.
I really think the .22 is underpowered for FT matches , just to heavy for 50 yards with that low power.
Voltar is right you need to smack that bull first time , everytime (at least thats the goal)
I belive the 177 is superior in FT because the power is sufficent to give the nessasry accuaracy.
Now when I fired my .22 on low power I had bad results , all over the paper @ 50 yards. but give it some power and its a tack driver.
I was considering doing the same thing you did , drop the fill to 1800 -2000 and use 177 on a low power setting . maybe take the hammer out or change it .
I can tell ya one thing , it’s not easy finding the sweet spot and getting the gun in a consistant string
Oh the hours I spent setting mine up… Then I got a blod valve, learned its ways and could then set up for 20 tight shots in about 10 minutes. It was always fun and very satisfying. Then I got bored of that after two years so I got me a reg 😆
PB, that has promise!
I’m wondering how shooting at little kill zones will compare? 🙂
Walter
I have mostly been trying to learn the gun , and try and find the sweet spots for the gun to have some consistency , i have been doing this for allot of different pellets, so i haven’t really tried shooting one pellet per target when the gun was shooting at peak for a given pellet.
I can tell ya one thing , it’s not easy finding the sweet spot and getting the gun in a consistent string
The condor will put 3 shots in one spot allot , but it wont do it for 5 very much.the impact moves around until you get it in the sweet spot then it will gives some consistency.
This will be one of the next things that i have wanted to try and do .
Here is a couple of targets that i shot messing around,
Some nice groups there.
For field target they gotta be in the bull. Can you do a target one shot per and see how that flies?
Cheers,
Walter….
Good shooting PB!
That’s a well tuned machine right there!
Thanks Pab, I aint thru yet. 🙂
Holy shit PB they are some tight strings 😯 😎 😎
Beautifully tuned and set up mate!!
Oh yeah, good shooting too!!
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yeahhhhhhhh, im not so sure about that , but I could be wrong.
Here’s one a lot of guys use its free from hawk optics so your not going to get a virus or anything
http://www.chairgun.com/
it has 177 20 and 22 caliber graphs .
just punch in your info .