Using gases other than air to power a rifle
I copied this from the Rapid forum…
Mr T Doe said (in his usual tones)
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During the past couple of weeks I’ve spoken to two people who advocated the use of gases other than air in precharged pneumatics. One of them told me that ‘all my mates use……..’ and he named two gasses which he claimed ‘improved’ the performance of his gun.
I asked both callers which other gasses they’d tried, and one had tried oxygen, the other ‘knew someone’ who had used acetylene. I kid you not. Both of these morons also claimed that they knew what they were doing with gasses. Both were told in no uncertain terms what their status really was, and I suspect both put down the phone with a very much reduced opinion of me.
Now, for at least the tenth time since the BBS has existed, can we nail this one right here, right now?
Forget the alleged ‘advantages’ of one gas over another, forget the ‘but this gas is inert’ protestations and forget completely any idiotic notions of me, and the airgun industry, wishing to hold back the march of progress. The fact is, experimentation with gases other than air WILL lead to someone getting severely injured and possibly killed.
The guns are already out-shooting us by miles and air-power is safe, manageable and perfectly capable of providing all we need. Sticking with divers’ quality compressed air ONLY, keeps the safety message clear and un-muddied by life or death lessons in chemistry.
Please, stay safe, promote safety and never join the ranks of the dangerously moronic. Above all, never, ever use anything but clean, dry air in a precharged pneumatic airgun.
Sorry about the sermon, but I’d rather bore you than leave you open to the influence of potential Darwin award winners.
Terry
While Ben Taylor replied with this……and the pic Milo has posted
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Some idiot suggested to Terry that the MK 1 Rapid torn apart by the effects of a fill of OXYGEN was created just to warn off would be users, I can catagoricaly state that it was not and so could the user if he saw this thread.
I now have this rifle so if any of you are in any doubt about the harmfull effects of OXYGEN feel free to cal lin and see for your selves.
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Sorry Thayne… Break Free is only harmful if you swallow it.
Oh crap….
Sorry Thayne… Break Free is only harmful if you swallow it… Nothing about
being flammable on the warning label…. 😥
It does say keep out of the reach of children though so you might be
breaking the rules if you use it….lol…. 😆
Knife actually got booted by a guy who thinks nitrogen is unsafe because someone will suffocate in a basement… I’ve had folks tell me how somehow in the absence of rapid compression induced heat, a speck of oil will detonate in HPA. Others have read “experts” on the net and decided they are now chemists… Amazing, and somehow we still have folks asking about oxygen as a cheap source since they can steal it from work where it is hidden under all those warning signs!
Oh, BTW there are actually guns that do use propane as a propellent! Without oxygen in a proper ratio, it’s safe. I’d get the gun that leaks of course… I’ll pass, but feel free to look it up…I’m not making this up.
NASA uses hydrogen in their high speed gun as the tiny molecules flow fast and when heated, the local speed of sound in hydrogen is very high. No, that’s not a recommendation for goober to “try this.”
So I guess lubing my pellets with break free is dangerous? LMAO Right on! I like living on the edge 😈
I always enjoy the safety police posts on those other sites… invariably, they turn into a contest about who can be safest and who has heard the worst story. The posts are filled with some of the dumbest things I’ve ever read and usually defended with all the scientific rigor of an Al Gore documentary.
Knife actually got booted by a guy who thinks nitrogen is unsafe because someone will suffocate in a basement… I’ve had folks tell me how somehow in the absence of rapid compression induced heat, a speck of oil will detonate in HPA. Others have read “experts” on the net and decided they are now chemists… Amazing, and somehow we still have folks asking about oxygen as a cheap source since they can steal it from work where it is hidden under all those warning signs!
Oh, BTW there are actually guns that do use propane as a propellent! Without oxygen in a proper ratio, it’s safe. I’d get the gun that leaks of course… I’ll pass, but feel free to look it up…I’m not making this up.
NASA uses hydrogen in their high speed gun as the tiny molecules flow fast and when heated, the local speed of sound in hydrogen is very high. No, that’s not a recommendation for goober to “try this.”
Your propane idea is just plain crazy Lama…….. 😆
(I’m adding lols to mine from now on so theres no confusion..) 😆
How do you hook up the tank to your A’hole? Do you use silicone lube in the process? or Just plain KY jelly? 😆 😆
Duh 🙄 My bum is threaded of course 🙄 😆 😆
Damn, you think of everything ❗ 😆 😆
Your propane idea is just plain crazy Lama…….. 😆
(I’m adding lols to mine from now on so theres no confusion..) 😆
How do you hook up the tank to your A’hole? Do you use silicone lube in the process? or Just plain KY jelly? 😆 😆
Duh 🙄 My bum is threaded of course 🙄 😆 😆
Your propane idea is just plain crazy Lama…….. 😆
(I’m adding lols to mine from now on so theres no confusion..) 😆
How do you hook up the tank to your A’hole? Do you use silicone lube in the process? or Just plain KY jelly? 😆 😆
My previous post about farting methane into my tank is best.
Your propane idea is just plain crazy Lama…….. 😆
(I’m adding lols to mine from now on so theres no confusion..) 😆
Has anyone here tried propane? That may work well. Hydrogen is another good one to test out.
Don’t forget springer idiots though!! I remember seeing a guy on youtube showing people how to get lots of power through not-so-powerful springers. He was squirting wd-40 (or something equally flammable) into the piston chamber. It was spitting fire out of the muzzle. Great idea guy….
PROPANE and Hydrogen???????… I was waiting for the joke…. Might as
well try pouring a little gasoline in your PCP tank too…
Come on Lama… Where is your head these days…. You are lucky you
weren’t the one that tried those gases and liquids…..
Anything flammable is completely out of the question in any PCP or spring gun…. WD40 is included in the dangerous liquids….
Ever try drinking bleach or a fifth of Ever Clear while jumping off of a
300ft cliff “””?????? Kinda the same results…. The outcome will not be
good…
Haha, don’t think you got the fact that I was joking there. 😉
I’d never use anything other than air. I have a handpump, so I don’t get much choice there. I guess the only other thing I could use is co2 if I blew on the intake or something. 😛
A Mamcrackin Cocktail… 😯
Praxair propoline explosion, St. Louis 2005
Don’t try explaining any of this on Air gun Advice. It will definitely get you banned! 👿
I have never met a more stuck up bunch of self righteous morons in all my life.
Well, there is one Knife forum we won’t talk about —– 🙄
Has anyone here tried propane? That may work well. Hydrogen is another good one to test out.
Don’t forget springer idiots though!! I remember seeing a guy on youtube showing people how to get lots of power through not-so-powerful springers. He was squirting wd-40 (or something equally flammable) into the piston chamber. It was spitting fire out of the muzzle. Great idea guy….
PROPANE and Hydrogen???????… I was waiting for the joke…. Might as
well try pouring a little gasoline in your PCP tank too…
Come on Lama… Where is your head these days…. You are lucky you
weren’t the one that tried those gases and liquids…..
Anything flammable is completely out of the question in any PCP or spring gun…. WD40 is included in the dangerous liquids….
Ever try drinking bleach or a fifth of Ever Clear while jumping off of a
300ft cliff “””?????? Kinda the same results…. The outcome will not be
good…
So would liquid propane be a bad idea??? 😈
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wtf? no more Absolute and break Free?!?!?1 😥 😥 😥