Way dumb question: Cricket stock removal
I want to remove the stock in order to adjust the trigger. I removed the bolt in the forestock but the stock would not budge. There is a bolt in the pistol grip and I began loosening that but got a bad feeling so I am walking away until someone is kind enough to give me some guidance. This is how it always starts with me then the next thing I know is I’m sending it in for repair
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Thanks for any help…
KP
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Why do you do this? My knowledge of accurizing comes from large caliber powder burners and for those you want the most rigid stock and rigid action mating surface (aka) bedding. And with the cricket not being fully free floated already I did not think that free floating the AT would do anything and loose bolts goes against everything I know. :confusedn:
For my cricket / crickets I have always kept the stock screw as loose as possible. Just enough to keep it from jiggling. I think it’s a good way to start off. It’s best to do this on a full AT
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Have you ever tried bedding the action? Also what does lossening the securing screws do? I have only heard that the tighter the better. Also do you only float the AT infront of the securing screws.
I free floated all my Cricket stocks off of the AT and it helped/minimize/improve the POI shifting. 😉
~ GKU
Explain please Greg. What do you mean by free floated and how did it help the POI?
Hey Awny,
When the pressure drops in the AT will shrink and move.
I feel that if any part of the AT that makes contact with the stock will cause the action to push on the stock and flex the action.
This flexing is enough to change the alignment between the scope and the bore.
You can also just try tightening the stock screw firmly then back out 1/8-1/4 turn CCW.
Shoot to see if it has an effect on your gun, if it does I’d then free float.
To free float the AT is not a cure all to POI shifting but to help minimize it.
When I had the gun apart I used the AT as a shaping tool.
I wrapped a full sheet of 220g sandpaper on it and just sanded the foregrip section of the stock.
The thickness of the sandpaper is enough to give the clearance needed.
Taped off the outside and lightly spray the inside of the entire stock with sanding sealer.
When replacing the action check to see if the receiver side of the action is not pushing down on the inside.
If so I two-way taped a piece of aluminum (soda can) on the inside of the stock under the back end of the frame.
And also tightening the stock screw firmly then back out 1/8-1/4 turn CCW.
It all helped with the Crickets I’ve tuned.
~ ATB ~ GKU
By removing material from inside the stock along the air tube to relieve any pressure that may be causing any POI. Mine shoots so well I hadn’t done it but I may just go ahead and free float it now.
I free floated all my Cricket stocks off of the AT and it helped/minimize/improve the POI shifting. 😉
~ GKU
Explain please Greg. What do you mean by free floated and how did it help the POI?
The whole point in the two bolts is to stop poi shift it can’t move if bolted In two places grip and fore end its near impossible to shift
Good idea Greg!
That strange ?
I free floated all my Cricket stocks off of the AT and it helped/minimize/improve the POI shifting. 😉
~ GKU
Both screws need to be removed to remove the stock and my stock is so tight, I have to smack the air tube on my leg to remove the stock. Also when installing I have to sqeez the air tube back into the stock. This is a good thing it helps with accuracy and dull the ping of the rifle.
On my .22 BullPup I needed to remove the stock and grip screw.
It may depend on which version of 25 cal you have, you may need to remove both.
Tips on trigger adjustment.
Adjust the 2nd stage travel/break and pull weight first.
Make sure the gun is de-cocked and not loaded, then unclip the trigger turn buckle.
Then adjust the first stage pull weight by unscrewing the rod from the trigger buckle.
This will lighten the weight of the first stage, don’t cut the spring length down.
Lastly adjust the trigger location by the turn buckle near the trigger.
Increasing the length of the rod will move the trigger blade back making it shorter.
~ GKU
The stock is probably just tight. Try working your gun back and forth it should just come right out. Mines the same way.
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Stocks which contact the barrel are still popular for many utility weapons, though the most accurate have largely moved to free-floating barrels.
Kind of like, out with the old and in with the new.
There is a lot of controversy over glass bedding and free floating systems.
But everyone can choose what is best for themselves from there experience and whatever, even you.
Just trying to help others who ask and owners of the Cricket with what has been working the best for my friends and I.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-floating_barrel
~ GKU