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Can anyone point me to a source in the USA (or at least where I could have one shipped to the USA)
thanks
Keyser
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metalman , hope my post to be of some help . Landmine blowing me about 20 feet in the air and then the hard impact of landing
did the damage to my back , messed-up my hearing as well . I was really surprised that it didn’t kill me along with the 2 other
guys that died . Doctors say they can not operate , all my disc’s are too messed -up . I refuse to take heavy narcs for the pain .
Some times need to have a couple of stiff drinks to be able to sleep . Anyway , wish you the best .
FROM : THE BIRDMAN
Birdman thanks for posting that, I am not sure about knife but I have gone through so many injections into my spine it is not funny, none of them have helped me. I have progressive nerve damage in my back and legs and the so called specialists have no idea what is causing it or how to treat it, other than with narcotic pain medications. I have gone through 2 trials for nerve stimulator implants in my back and neither has worked. I am now scheduled for a pain medication pump implant in my abdomen, this will inject a none narcotic nerve medication directly into the fluid in my spine, it is supposedly a faster and better way to get pain medication to the body. This is about my only option to narcotic pain medications which my family doctor is getting paranoid about, he says the feds are coming down hard on doctors who are prescribing them, I can understand that is the abuse of them has become an epidemic and something needs to be done to control them, but it does not help the people who are genuinely suffering. I have been told that surgery is not an option for me because they have no idea what is causing my nerve damage, possibly all of my years in the Automotive trade spraying iscocyanates, who knows?
Anyway I thank you for making your post, I am always open to suggestions that there is even a remote possibility of helping deal with this pain, my main goal is to be able to travel, so I can go back to the UK and see my grand kids and my 3 sons again, wishing all of the members on here a very prosperous and Happy New Year, Neil.
Dayum Bird!
Sorry to hear it!
And thank you for the info!!!
Knife
Which reminds me, I forgot to mention, that tbear either has very poor reading comprehension, or is just full of shit. As I do not know him, I am unqualified to guess which. :rofl:
Knife :biggrinn:
knife , your welcome , I know what it is like to live in pain , I have been doing it for the last 46 years . Maybe now like my
brother I will be able to find a way to be able to live from day to day with less or no pain . All I can do is put my life and
faith in GODS’ Hands .
FROM : THE BIRDMAN
Thanks Bird!
If I could do what I know I am supposed to do, that is NOT work in the yard or other things to aggravate it for a few days, Maybe It would have a chance to heal a bit.
My Wife says I’m a stubborn o’l fool! LOL!!! She sure got that one right! :rofl:
Knife
Guys , my brother already has had two discs fused in his back and that did not relieve him of any of his back pains . Now V.A.
has sent him to see an outside back doctor who has been giving him two to four shots every week that has a combination of
lidocaine and cordizone and my brother says that he has never felt so good and pain free after getting these shots . Maybe
if you talk to your doctor and inquire about getting shots to your back with this kind of therapy it may also help you . Also
my brother says that the shots do not hurt when given . I’ll have to ask my doctor if I too can get this type of treatment for
my back as well , you can not imagine the damage that a landmine can do to the human body . In the last 46 years I have so
far have had 26 surgeries . Still hanging in there .
FROM : THE BIRDMAN
Neil, I know “exactly” what you are saying. I am suffering from sciatic nerve damage. Hurts and burns like hell. And the thing of it is, I cannot for the life of me figure out what the heck I did to stir it up again.
Nothing I do seems to help. No position. No stretching, cold compress, nothing! It’s all I can do to not be grumpy around my wife. She has enough to worry about with her Urticarial Vasculitis syndrome, without having to hear me complain!
I did manage to get some of the Silicone out of the LDC. Acetone didn’t work, oddly enough. But a bit of Goof Off poured into the material did get a bit out. Not only do I have to lube the cast bullets, but the Compressor uses silicon oil (100 wt.) as it’s piston to seal lube. So a bit gets into the bbl, and out the front.
I have literally put thousands of rounds thru your LDC at apx. 200 fpe. And not one single issue, other than the silicone oil retention. Man, I wish I could take the front apart to clean. Sure has added a LOT of weight up front!
No problems though. As I am perfectly aware that your LDC are designed for Pellet Guns, and that the few of us shooting cast bullets, were and are, still a bit of an unknown!
You make one fine product! No if’s or but’s about it! and I am very thankful to have one of your creations. Very much so!
All the Best Neil. I Pray that your back gets better. Seems that back surgery can be as bad, or good, without a clue as to how it is going to come out.
Mike
Yeh knifemaker you got that right, sorry I could not make head nor tale of who was saying it was legal and who was saying it is illegal? I thought you were on the illegal side which did not make too much sense to me cos I know you use them, lol Having serious issues with ruptured disks in my back, it might mean an early retirement for me, if so I will have to go back to doing what I do as a hobby only. I can not abide sitting around doing nothing, when my back is bad I climb the walls wanting to get back on the lathe, lol. Hope all is good with you bud, all the best, Neil.
Howdy Neil!;
I’m not sure exactly why you wrote allthis to me. If you will re-read what I posted, I think you will find that I wrote darned near exactly what you did!
Overworked maybe? LOL!!!
But just incase you miss it again, an airgun LDC in not a firearm sound depressing device. Nor can it become one, unless it is altered to be so. And that alteration would then be the infraction of the law. As would then installing it onto a firearm.
I did not include the line that it would be the person doing the mods, and or the person subsequently in possession, and use of the modified device, who have broken the Statutes.
(I would have thought that simple common sense would have been plenty to not have to type a book to explain the obvious). LOL!!!
Seems like the same you are saying. No? 😉
Very much enjoying the .257 Neil C. LDC, and it is holding up very-very well.
Great work Sir! 😉
Knife
Knifemaker for your information my LDC’s have been inspected by local law enforcement in my home and they have told me that they are perfectly legal. I have also had attorneys read over the court ruling and have been told by several attorneys and a retired judge that they are legal for use on air guns. They only become illegal when they are modified with the INTENT to use them on a fire arm and it is the person who modifess it with that intent who is breaking the law, not the maker. It is like a car maker selling a car and you modify the exhaust, the exhaust is illegal and it is NOT the car maker who is in trouble, it is the person who modified it.
I have sold many of my products to law enforcement officials and even attorneys and a police chief, so I think that there is just too much scare mongering going on with regards to LDC, moderators, etc being used on air guns. Believe what you want but I prefer to listen to the people who make the laws and enforce the laws, the ATF does not have any control over devices used on air guns, that is the law, Neil.
These guys in AZ will sell Weihrauch LDC’s directly to you, and via their website. They have the .177/.22 versions as well as the .25 !!!
It would be without modification on the LDC. But if the gun was modified, that too would be an infraction. (Specifically to fit the LDC)
Yeah, Intent plays a HUGE role in a court case. And I mark all the LDC’s I make for my personal use on my AIR GUN’s (in large letters here for prying eyes 😆 😆 ) Just in case! 😉
Local LE sure doesn’t have a problem with it. Not that it makes much difference. As LE usually doesn’t know the LAW any better than we do. Well, in a lot of cases any way.
One LE official may think of AG’s as firearms, while another may think of them as little more than toys. You never know. and therein lies the RUB! 😕
It sure Couldn’t hurt in a Courtroom to have the specimen marked “For Air Gun Use Only”. It would go a long way toward Intent. 😉
Knife
Knife- Got a question about this quote: Without modification to the firearm or the LDC? Because all the threaded LDC’s I’ve bought aren’t the same thread as firearm suppressor threads… Of course there’s that ParisD guy- but I don’t order from him… but even he has two different threads- one for AG and one for firearms (still won’t order from him- shipping is shady). I plan on running thread-on LDC’s on two of my rifles (an Mrod, and that talon pack-gun)… I’ve been thinking on this- and Crooker’s case as well- I was thinking of engraving “for Air Gun use only” on them right on the muzzle cap… You’re right about our legal system’s definition of intent… however, purchasing from someone who puts “FOR AIRGUN USE ONLY, NOT INTENDED FOR FIREARMS” all over his website and my engraving idea, might mitigate problems? Thoughts?
If you are referring to the case of Michael Crooker, Read it again. I have followed this case since his original conviction. .
The second hearing focused on intent. A very subjective thing. and the Judge could have gone either way. In fact, Crooker’s Attorneys were shocked that the ruling came down the way it did.
In the end, EVEN IF you COULD be guaranteed to be as fortunate as Crooker, Remember that he spent time in the Fed. Penn for his actions, and spent a hell of a lot of money getting out of his situation.
Only a fool would put his freedom and financial well being in the hands of a Judge on purpose. Especially considering a very large percentage of Judges are Leftest! Who hate guns and the ownership or use of them by any private citizen. They love to write law by ruling against any Gun Rights what so ever!
It’s your life. Do what you want. Just pleas don’t take others down with you due to a lack of understand of the Law. There are a lot of newbies here, that would read your words as fact. And it could ruin someones life that had no idea that they were breaking the law!
For what it’s worth, I wrote a piece a few years back on this subject and “Intent”. Pointing out the possibility of using house hold items as noise reducing devices. At the time, the Fed’s stated that ANY device that could reduce a fireArms report by 1db or more, was an illegal device. I wrote them and pointed out that many items that were perfectly legal could be used in such a way, and were not in, and of themselves an illegal device.
These included all the items used in Crookers defence, along with a few others. Two of which were a typical torpedo type Lawn Mower Muffler. (Which is already threaded by the way) and several types of filters. With the NAPA canister filters being a favorite. Yet these items were not in and of themselves illegal. Further, a person purchasing said items, for legitimate use was not breaking the Law, while a person doing so for the purpose of manufacturing a Fire Arm silencer WAS breaking the law. This is where the question of intent comes in. And it the Crooker case, Carried the verdict. But we cant’ count on common sense ruling in Court of law. Unfortunately, our Country, nor judicial system works under the labor of Common sense. In fact, it would seem that our Courts and Government have totally thrown common sense and decency out the window of late. To count on either, is fool hardy at best. And wholly Ignorant of reality at worst.
These writings are here on the TAG somewhere. It is almost as if Crookers attorneys read my arguments here on the TAG. As they mirrored my arguments completely!
KnifeMaker
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Wow Birdman it is when I hear things like this that I feel blessed, even with my health problems, you make me feel like I am the lucky one! Anyway I gave up drinking about 17 years ago, no I am not an alcoholic it was just by choice and because of my home circumstances. I have just had the implant done and it appears to be helping, I say appears because they now have to wean me of my heavy pain narcotics, so until that is done I can not be sure they are not still helping. Thanks for your post, again, another person who makes me feel like I am one of the truly blessed, wishing you all the best, Neil.