which way to go?
Hey all, I have been reading on this site now for about 3 months. I am wanting to get into the pcp world and it seems to me that the airforce is the way to go due to all the custum work you can do on them…just not sure what to start with…been looking at the .25 AAA condor from tony and I have e-mailed him and got the cost, but currently dont have that much cash as of right now…..so I will start here and see what the good folks here have to give me as far as advise goes..I want to be able to take anywhere from birds to feral cats….and if the case comes around a dog if they get in to my rabbits or goats…currently I have a gamo shadow and I am just not satisfied with it so any help i can get to start me on the right path would be great…
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as far as the tank refill there the closest place is about 20 miles from where I am located and if everything goes as planned I will set up a refill station..plus a lot of people around here play paintball..so thats another plus I guess….walter when you say “a condor that has been looked at” coukd you specify a little more please.
Get yourself a good performing Condor that ‘has been looked at’. I highly doubt it will be ready to go from Airforce. And you don’t want any glitchs off the bat!!!!
Take that to the range, hange out and let fellas shoot it. You may find the customer base you need.
One good thing is airguns are addictive.
I try to buy one a month……. well maybe two months……..
But I rarely buy what I can make…… so bad customer for PCP dealers:)
Good luck!
Walter….
If there arent any PCP airguns in his area then maybe he can create the base himself. Any powder burner would be interrested in these things if you give them half a chance.
If there arent any PCP in your area you might need to find sources for refills and adapters so you have those answers before your customers ask them.
Alabama?
I believe a couple of our forum Members live out there. DNC and Mr. Lama.
I bet they could give you a rundown on what the interest would be. Couple of nice kids.
I understand about having the customer base first but then again I am trying to introduce them to this area..have aleady talked to air force today actually and they are willing to work with me on a samll purchase (seem like nice folks) ..just to get me started and to see how they do.. but I understand what your saying about the customer, with out no customer there would be no need for it….I see in my last post I forgot to inclued a introduction of the pcp air rifle to the area I should have been a Little more clear in my post….thanks for the help
Would it not make sense to have a customer base first?
If you have access to fellas that are into PCP, airguns, black guns, then perhaps you can make a go.
No customers = dealership bungle.
Walter….
Once again thanks for the response guys….There is one more thing I would like to ask on here…I am a gun salesman for my uncle which owns a small country store so to speak and I am thinking about gettin the information through air force to become a dealer. Just not sure how it would do in the mobile, al area…if anyone has in site on some information please let me know…..
The .22 has much better availability of ammo, expecially if you run out and need pellets local. Plenty of knock down for what you are going to do and very accurate. If noise is a problem, just get a good shroud from Talon Tunes or Airhog. If you feel later you still need more punch then get the .25 bbl (they are really easy to change).
As to air, you need either a hand pump or bulk tank to fill from. as BK said, carbon fiber is the way to go but may be cost prohibitive. Often can find a used scba (firemans breathing air) cylinder for minimal investment. Just make sure it is rated for 4500psi and you can get it filled to that pressure. Many breathing air tanks being sold cheap are only rated for 2250 psi which is pretty much useless.
If you were to take your AF tank to them every time you get to 2000 psi, you will go broke paying for gas. you are going to need to get a CF tank. Tim at Mac1 has them for a good price.
thanks guys for the quick responses….never been on a forum with this kind of responses in this short of a time. I am wanting to stay away from the .177 just doesn’t seem like it has the knock down potential I am looking for and also from the past few guns I have had. The condor was the first one I looked at and probably the one I am going to get in ether .22 or .25 not sure wich one yet leaning more to the .22. with that said I would like to get a condor set up like the ss being that noise is some what of an issue …now the question I am asking now is: How long of a barrel and shroud to get (shooting 50-100yrds)? also what about filling the tank (I have friends on the local fire department) can I take the supplied tank to them or do I need to get a scuba tank and take that to them, not sure about the tank thing and how that works. and thanks again for the quick replys and all of the help
I find it interesting when people are just trying to get into a PCP arena and the first thing they are looking at are AF guns…I did, too. But Steve, if you are into this, buy a .22 Condor. You can always upgrade it later on, like many others, including myself, have done. You can go either way, for power and compactness. Shoot it for a year, learn everything you can, and go from there. And straight from the box these are decent guns, especially with new valves. Here are 50 and 100 yard groups when my Condor was a bone stock. Couldn’t complain.
Come on, guys! Everyone’s turned into power junkies around here. A standard Talon .177 is more than adequate for his needs, or a TSS in .22 if it needs to be a bit quieter. I’ve played around with the short barrels, the long barrels, and have come to the conclusion that the 18″ barrel gives the best combination of balance, weight, compact size, and power. To that end, I’m now down to just one barrel for my TSS, an 18″ .22. Granted, it’s currently sporting a Blodnob valve, but I may just be letting that go soon, I really don’t need the extra power, and frankly, I can’t use it with this barrel anyway. Hope that helps, Steve, later.
Dave
A Career .25 would make near as makes no difference the same power as a Condor .25 and has adjustable power that actually works. It’s also an accurate gun, although loud.
Hey steven!
The .22 Airforce Condor would easily cater to your particular requirements with no modifications needed. Though, if the need arises, you can start any custom work to suit a certain application. Even a Talon SS will kill a dog without a problem, if you hit it in its head. The Condor just gives you more allowance due to its greater power. But just keep in mind that both rifles can be transformed into the other very easily. But from the get-go, the Condor seems like your ticket.
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Before demonstrating any Airforce rifle hoping to win converts i would make sure someone that knows these guns go over it.
How embarrassing it would be to squeeze off a dud, or worse have a tank dump, or have one that shoots around corners
So what you will want to do is learn about them to the point you can set one up for good shot count and good power with a nice shot curve.
You will need to know hammer springs, hammer weights, tophat setting, fill pressures and state of tune for preferred pellet.
All else fails set it up for Kodiaks.
Walter….