Yellow post on the Evanix speed 25
This is the second 25 caliber test of this rifle, out of 2 tests, where the Evainix Speed shows great accuracy.
This guy shot a 3/4 minute of dime group at 40 yards, first group with the rifle, and then shot 8 out of ten into a nickle at 40 yards full auto. It was the first time he has shot anything full auto.
He was getting 1050 to 900 FPS with Kings doing this.
This is about as good as most single shot and repeaters will shoot.
What ever happened to “put a few tins down the barrel to see if it shoots better”. 😯
Not sure what I would do with a full auto 25, but I sure think the semi auto function combined with this accuracy is a winner for Jackrabbits, coyotes et al.
Regards,
Roachcreek
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Tof,
Your right when you say you do not have to own one to form an opinion, you can do it on past track records.
I based my opinion of the Rogue on the fact, yes fact, that Crosman could not pull it off when it came to designing and manufacturing and servicing a complicated gun like the Rogue.
And I said that before the Rogues came out to the everyday shooters, or victims as it were.
Altho I did not own one, I have read about the fiasco with the barrels on the MRod and how they handled that matter. I have seen the quality of workmanship on their other products. So it was pretty much a given that they produced poor quality equipment and had poor service on the same.
There are great shooting “Rods” out there, but it is a even up gamble it seems to get a good shooting one, how many air rifle compainies have entire cottage industries spring up to produce replacement barrels?
They, the cottage industires and I do not mean tuners, spring up to solve a problem with a large production item, Air Force has the same thing going on to try and improve the ergonomics of their rifle, a problem is identified and a cottage industry springs up to fill the niche. No one has stepped forward to fix the Rogue, and probably will not, it is too small of a production run with too many problems.
Now you can say that Crosman will willingly give you a replacement, but it is still the same poor quality part, and the fact they know this and do nothing to remedy the problem is what I based my opinion on. They are after the money first and formost, and use brand loyality as bait.
This was more than obvious when they released the Rogue, knowing full well that it had leaking and on board computer problems, that they themselves could not fix.
What Crosman is good at is advertising hype and getting writers on board to promote their low priced products. The Rogue was different, it was not low priced and it was complicated, something they had not tired before and were woefully unprepared to pull off.
And I was spot on, the rest is history.
Now the Koreans seem to make good guns that shoot very well, plus the fact that electrically fired and operated guns are nothing new and are not really all that hard to design and make work, coupled with two for two positive reviews from shooters that are not on the company dole, something we never had with the Rogue, I predict this will be a winner, if it in fact is durable as I said in my first post.
And yes a good shooter will not make a poor shooting gun shoot better. I found out exactly that when you recommended the FX Royale to me, it was then that I discovered how truely well a well designed small bore air rifle can shoot.
Regards,
Roachcreek
If you watch the videos of the gun shooting their is alot of muzzle blast from the gun.
Riverside
lets just say I am a little skeptical the system is fully recovered before the valve is knocked
That is what the Drozd does first shot will hot, then velocity drops off.
It would not be a stealthy gun, to hunt with. If your in the woods, & you shoot off a burst with the sound of the motor going off even if add a can on the end if the gun. Any game that is near by will be long gone. 😯
😀 Mostly gibberish on price, if a gun don’t sell for $2000 the manufacturer has to do one or the other,,, Drop the price, or quit making the gun,, My Money is on the price drop first.
Being it made in the USA or Germany or Russia makes no difference, if my Marod was made in Korea it would cost double what it cost in the USA, I have one of the first 100 sold in all calibers accept the Rogue, for which I wouldn’t put a plug nickel in I don’t care where it is made LOLOL.
Any time I have to depend on a battery to fire a Gun I’ll look for another gun,,, Beets me why the old times of cocking the bolt putting in a Pellet and firing the gun is supposed to be almost outdated,,, Oh well the mechanical guns do just fine regardless of where they are made, all shoot in the head of a squirrel at 35 yards, and this Old country boy is satisfied with that,,..
I have an Arms Chipmunk, and some has the Oregon arms Kricket, same gun but mine is an antique by age and saught after where the Kricket is still all over the gun racks in gun shops, but you’d be highly pressed to get a Gun Dealor to say the Oregon Arms is worth more than the Kricket,, 😀 IMHO both are the same, just the name has changed,, Just like the Import Guns,, Most do the same but People are after the name.
Being the proud owner of over 100 powder burners and a host of old and new Pellet rifles, I can’t pick one over the other. So the hype is, Try them and keep the one you like, If someone wants to sell a gun he is either making money or in a hard spot either way the hype and quanity sells the gun, not the Quality, fo I think they all are good,,Excluding the Rogue 😀 For which the reports has really ran me off,,,I would like to have it for my collection, but not at $1300 for a troublesome gun that is natural to leak 75 pounds of air pressure per day and call that normal. 😀 😀 All the rest seems ok, so I’ll keep my TT talondor and my other 5 airforce guns, none has shot any better with me behind the triger than they have, and my Marods will put pellet on top of eatch other at Squirrel distance,, It’s just My opinion(Eh More or less) 😀
the laughable part is some folks acting as though these new Evinix guns are going to give FX or Edguns a run for the money based on price
I don’t think so…
my understanding the Bullpups are going to be close to the 2K mark, maybe more.
Thats more than FX products and well into Edgun territory…
another point being ignored is this design platform is basically a melding of highend Airsoft with mechanical pneumatic valves and rotary mags
toyed quite a bit with highend Airsoft, G&G ect and can tell you the electronics fail with a degree of regularity when ran hard.
It’s not surprising this came out of Korea, after all the best of Airsoft is built there but like I stated the very limited use these guns are getting so far should in no way be taken as any sort of indicator as to how often you will have them tore down on the bench if you are enjoying the guilty pleasures of them.
another unanswered question is on full auto, after the first shot what is your velocity on the follow ups? These rigs have a quite high RPM
lets just say I am a little skeptical the system is fully recovered before the valve is knocked again…in other words one hot shot followed by weaker shots…again no one is stretching the legs on these yet
shooting close range won’t show much.
I bring this up because my Casselman runs a vertical string on full auto due to this and it’s mechanical action functions at a much slower RPM than the Evenix does but perhaps the Koreans have found a way to overcome this common failing of pneumatic machineguns
mind you the Casselman is a tanker with a usable shot count and magazine capcity
bear in mind I am a big Evinix fan!
have little doubts I will be an early in for one of the Bullpups
I just think there is a bit of a rush to praises on this melded technology
I watching with a great deal of interest
I would be willing to spend a few hundred on a shroud.
It’s as loud as i thought it would be. The owner responded to my question about the loudness of the gun. He said it was LOUD!!! Muzzle blast and gears going round and round sounded to me like they would make some real noise.
Damned good group though
RC,
You know as well as i do that you don’t have to own one to repeat the negatives or positives about what you’ve heard from REAL OWNERS. If someone shows “proof” of the negative comments then you know as much as they do. The difference is that you don’t own the gun or have it in your hands for testing. And more than likely, your not gonna shoot it any better cause you are a better shot. I thought that would happen when i first shot the ROGUE.
What is the difference between me telling you that FX makes a good gun, then you post only POSITIVE things about how GREAT FX is although you don’t own one, and me saying the guns sucks then you repeat what i said and you still don’t own one. People on forums take 3rd party “POSITIVE” info very well but they don’t take 3rd party “NEGATIVE” info well. Why is that?
It’s called “FORUM BULLSHIT”.
they have the .177,.22 and .25 not the 9mm which is waht I am interested in. perfect coyote gun on trap line!
I think the test of the Speed is going to be reliability in the long run. So many fast moving parts.
We will be hearing a lot more about this rifle here soon.
I certainly hope it’s all good news, the high priced manufacturers need some competition.
Slayer,
PA has them.
LovemyTalonnss,
I ate some artificially sweetned mints last might and my ass was talking a lot.
Luckily having never played football at Penn State or been a practicing Catholic alter boy, it was talking in a high pitched rumble. 😆
Regards,
Roachcreek
This guy shot a 3/4 minute of dime group at 40 yards, first group with the rifle, and then shot 8 out of ten into a nickle at 40 yards full auto. It was the first time he has shot anything full auto.
He was getting 1050 to 900 FPS with Kings doing this.
This is about as good as most single shot and repeaters will shoot.
What ever happened to “put a few tins down the barrel to see if it shoots better”. 😯
Not sure what I would do with a full auto 25, but I sure think the semi auto function combined with this accuracy is a winner for Jackrabbits, coyotes et al.
Regards,
Roachcreek
Sounds like someones ass is doing the talking. Just kidding. I have seen the vids. on the E. Speed 😎 . We may not like the YELLOW but they do have good info from time to time.
where can I get one?
When Crosman announced the Rogue, I was and continue to be very critical, I just never though a company who could not produce consistantly accurate rifles could pull off a complicated design such as the Rogue.
Some flipped shit at me because of my so called uneducated opinion based on the fact I did not own one. I have no such fears with Evanix Speed, and I don’t own of these either.
I do however think Crosman should consider making their Rogue in Korea. 😆
Regards,
Roachcreek
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Very True RC.
Glad you like the FX also. You and that gun are doing WELL to say the least…lol. FX makes good products for sure and will only get better and better. FX is the reason why i continue to hang on to my Logun Solo.
The Korean guns ARE good and have been for a while now. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed 9mm ultra and my Dragon Slayer. While not AS POWERFUL as the American guns, they are VERY reliable and accurate and MUCH more compact. A couple of big names on the American Big Bore scene sure seem to like to hunt with the 909 as opposed to the DAQ’s….lol. They for sure know how to make an accurate small bore gun also as the Evanix AR6 was considered very accurate with Eun Jins and so were some of the newer Evanix small bores.
It sucks to say this but, i would take a Korean small bore or big bore over Crosmans stuff any day of the week. I’ve owned enough of both and the Korean guns rule. To be honest, Crosmans guns to me show that they still think they are building toys. Even my Disco seems like it is a toy. But, Crosman will continue to be Crosman till the end of their time.
I love what Evanix is doing as far as advancements but i will be keeping my eyes on the SPEED. Interesting gun but i wanna see how that DC motor and gears are gonna hold up in the long run. Just waiting to hear how it sounds on video…….AGAIN!!!