Talonairgun | metalman | Activity https://talonairgunforum.com/members/metalman/activity/ Activity feed for metalman. Thu, 09 Jul 2026 01:06:06 -0400 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 d80be92715c60b348f342d3761dc2f95 metalman replied to the topic weihrauch hw moderator in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/weihrauch-hw-moderator/page/2/#post-264909 Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:23:53 -0400 Wow Birdman it is when I hear things like this that I feel blessed, even with my health problems, you make me feel like I am the lucky one! Anyway I gave up drinking about 17 years ago, no I am not an alcoholic it was just by choice and because of my home circumstances. I have just had the implant done and it appears to be helping, I say appears…Read more

]]> 5f85e0a0197ff5633bfdc71d6f3dcecd metalman replied to the topic weihrauch hw moderator in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/weihrauch-hw-moderator/page/2/#post-263909 Sat, 31 Dec 2016 03:18:34 -0400 Birdman thanks for posting that, I am not sure about knife but I have gone through so many injections into my spine it is not funny, none of them have helped me. I have progressive nerve damage in my back and legs and the so called specialists have no idea what is causing it or how to treat it, other than with narcotic pain medications. I have…Read more

]]> 1ea08dd85c6ea05797a90752314f1d94 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/3/#post-262883 Fri, 09 Dec 2016 18:40:16 -0400 Romeo it is no wonder I have an attitude, first of all you had no dealings with me, your father did, let him come and speak up, this is none of your damned business and you come on here and spout off about me. You are a stupid kid who has no idea what the hell you are talking about. I get tired of attacks from people who have little knowledge…Read more

]]> e1dbb16391ef4e417d766152ef79f31e metalman replied to the topic Shroud question? Again..... in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/shroud-question-again/#post-262850 Fri, 09 Dec 2016 01:41:44 -0400 Knifemaker something like this to me is simple common sense, maybe because I make both types and understand what is needed for good alignment, I think most experienced air gunners who have used LDC’s and shrouds would understand why they are made that way without the need to ask. Having said that I am glad the question was asked on the forum…Read more

]]> 8a46ff9b2898daf6248b4d6a5ec6e929 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/3/#post-262848 Fri, 09 Dec 2016 01:33:42 -0400 Frank you have to understand who I am dealing with, most of the people I deal with do NOT even own calipers let alone micrometers and even if they do a lot of them are not skilled in using them. So if they use micrometers I am going to encounter the same problems, using too much pressure to take a measurement, and there are micrometers and…Read more

]]> bd8a6513853015159fad01766eaa7fc0 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/3/#post-262754 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:42:20 -0400 Papa I am always open to suggestions on how to fix problems, as long as it comes from someone who has the appropriate knowledge. The problem I have is that I trust that anyone who buys an air gun has a certain understanding of them and their use before they buy one, just as I would not expect someone who knows nothing about fire arms and their…Read more

]]> 02ae793ac808d85da6cdabf2b6f65b15 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/3/#post-262734 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:36:29 -0400 Thanks for that post Papa there are just too many people out there who know everything and yet have little knowledge , this just proves what I try and explain to customers. I make these to their measurements but that does not mean it will be a perfect fit, calipers are known to give out not so accurate readings and even when they do give out…Read more

]]> 00dc541b8e5eb3ad9d968df056def480 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/2/#post-262704 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 06:19:24 -0400 [quote=”RomeoAlfa”]When the shroud was remade to the correct size it fit okay without needing any anti-seize or lubrication.
Your ignorance of the facts is beyond belief, you think the second piece was made to the correct size, the size that was given to me, it shows your total lack of knowledge and understanding, the new piece had the size…Read more

]]> a1b1bc235cc5794cca5222256ebd9b46 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/2/#post-262703 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 06:13:36 -0400 You are a total idiot, you obviously have no idea about calipers and measurements, you say exact measurements were given, there is no such thing as an exact measurement, calipers vary for one set to another, they only claim to be within 1000th inch in almost all available unless you are able to afford precision sets costing many hundreds of…Read more

]]> 91948540084c6e8ed7b0c874c0eff528 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/2/#post-261626 Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:10:50 -0400 Knifemaker these things are simple common sense, if anyone does not know these things they really should not own an air gun or fire arm. I was taught these things when I was about 6 or 7, I just can not treat every customer like they are an idiot, I have to assume that they own an air gun so they must have some common sense. I have included some…Read more

]]> 0bbe979eaaf5ffb0effa363ab04dd68f metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/page/2/#post-261290 Mon, 14 Nov 2016 00:47:51 -0400 Knifemaker that is one of my failings, I always believe that someone who orders something like this for their gun has some kind of knowledge and common sense, I would no expect anyone to assemble an aluminum shroud without using some kind of lubricant and if it is tight do NOT use force, which is what happened here. I hate to have to try and…Read more

]]> 9d36b95702d84c775f5dfb00f862ba57 metalman replied to the topic LDC for DAQ 458 and 50 in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/ldc-for-daq-458-and-50/#post-259591 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 01:05:11 -0400 I make them for guns up to 58 caliber, mostly for the XP airguns but I have made some for the DAQ’s as well, Neil.

]]> 279a10791af117cd156d9aba8f83c91b metalman replied to the topic weihrauch hw moderator in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/weihrauch-hw-moderator/page/2/#post-258938 Sun, 25 Sep 2016 02:24:57 -0400 Yeh knifemaker you got that right, sorry I could not make head nor tale of who was saying it was legal and who was saying it is illegal? I thought you were on the illegal side which did not make too much sense to me cos I know you use them, lol Having serious issues with ruptured disks in my back, it might mean an early retirement for me, if so I…Read more

]]> b46265438ff57989f3727beeba310eb8 metalman replied to the topic weihrauch hw moderator in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/weihrauch-hw-moderator/page/2/#post-258328 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:06:14 -0400 Knifemaker for your information my LDC’s have been inspected by local law enforcement in my home and they have told me that they are perfectly legal. I have also had attorneys read over the court ruling and have been told by several attorneys and a retired judge that they are legal for use on air guns. They only become illegal when they are…Read more

]]> 555ef7ecba72592e763d6ea8230f751b metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/#post-258319 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 16:27:53 -0400 Sorry to hear About your issues. To start, he definitely lacks some customer skills then quality issues. Unfortunately not the first time I have heard this.

Hammer you need to have dealt with me personally before you make comments like this. I take care of all of my customers and have very few issues with quality, quality is only an issue when…Read more

]]> 59273ff1acba192ec83e61fed0283509 metalman replied to the topic Neil Clague LDC = BAD Experience in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/neil-clague-ldc-bad-experience/#post-258318 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 16:19:09 -0400 I remember this experience very well, the customer who had me build this wrote me and told me the shroud had come apart, when I received the shroud and looked at his pictures it did not at first make an sense why it would just come apart. When I first inspected the parts I thought the customer had just cut the spacer in half to make sure I could…Read more

]]> 6c8fb34510fa531a258299d463b350d0 metalman replied to the topic Donnyfl shroud & LDC review in the forum Kalibrgun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/donnyfl-shroud-amp-ldc-review/page/3/#post-234451 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:52:22 -0400 I am glad that you got Ernest to fix the problem with your factory shroud, I do not take phone calls because I am on the lathe nearly all day long and taking calls disrupts your concentration. I usually finish work late at night and the last thing I want to do is talk shop after a very long day. Most of my customers understand this and are happy…Read more

]]> c0ed6dde19404c478f73165e801ef36a metalman replied to the topic Donnyfl shroud & LDC review in the forum Kalibrgun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/donnyfl-shroud-amp-ldc-review/page/3/#post-234403 Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:37:57 -0400 Just to put this into perspective from the makers view point.

So, I went shroud shopping and contacted Donny’s competitor first, and for the purpose of this review, shall remain nameless. He does not do phone calls but communicates via email. I asked him if he would be able to refund my money if it turned out his shroud could not resolve the…Read more

]]> febb9a913c494c57935ec2ec83d5a37e metalman replied to the topic Taming the Cricket .25 (silence is golden) in the forum Kalibrgun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/taming-the-cricket-25-silence-is-golden/#post-234272 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:38:52 -0400 Keyser it is a shame that you did not contact me about this before making the assumption that the shroud did not work, from the figures you posted and the figures given to me by other customers it is obvious there is a clipping problem with the shroud. I had some problems with the earlier shrouds because of not leaving enough clearance to…Read more

]]> 15d7c9c26e95dc1a59e29bf7be8ec4a5 metalman replied to the topic LDC for Daystate Airwolf .22 in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/ldc-for-daystate-airwolf-22/#post-214280 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:15:10 -0400 Keith I am not going to get drawn into anything with you. The e-mails shown say it all. If you are one of those who sent me countless questions one after the other that is why I tried to post on the Yellow forum. To ask potential customers to have some consideration for custom builders and think before you e-mail them. They are busy and can not…Read more

]]> deb3bcfd76656971754a71bfae37617e metalman replied to the topic Let's Have A Christmas Raffle!!!!! in the forum General Chat https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/let-s-have-a-christmas-raffle/#post-214020 Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:22:46 -0400 I have a very little used Benjamin Nitro piston rifle with scope I would donate, I am sure I could dig up another gun to donate to keep it company. Neil.

]]> f69afdaa899d81c92adafc79407ef07a metalman replied to the topic LDC for Daystate Airwolf .22 in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/ldc-for-daystate-airwolf-22/#post-214018 Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:18:29 -0400 Keith I have gone through our e-mails and see absolutely nothing to support your post about me’

This appears to be the extent of my rudeness.

Keith I am not sure, if they both use 1/2 inch x 20 threads and both have the same diameter shroud on them then it should be OK but without having both guns in front of me to look at I just can not answer…Read more

]]> 2ddb9e1162d57ef2d91ed9404438d357 metalman replied to the topic endcap venting in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/endcap-venting/page/2/#post-207861 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 22:29:26 -0400 When I said other guns I mean’t different makes of guns, if it could use a 1/2 inch thread then the LDC or shroud could be used on a lot of different air guns, As a special build these would be restricted to exactly the same type of guns, so they could be used on other Condors and Talons as long as the bores match, Neil.

If you have the recessed…Read more

]]> 03ad47378392d3261578bd7f723db34b metalman replied to the topic endcap venting in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/endcap-venting/#post-207853 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 17:28:44 -0400 If a larger OD tube and threads are used it could still be vented into the frame of the gun, but more often than not it makes the build more complicated and more time consuming to make. The only thing is, I like to make them, when possible, so that the LDC can be used on other air guns, building a special like this would pretty much restrict it…Read more

]]> fcb98120db2609ff254584135a244166 metalman replied to the topic endcap venting in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/endcap-venting/#post-207813 Sat, 02 Aug 2014 23:47:23 -0400 The threaded end cap I made was for a Condor with the long barrel, so the threads had to be pretty large and the shroud threads cut to match. I tried to tell my customer it would really effect venting to the frame of the gun but he did not care, he wanted his shroud so he could unscrew it, your wish is my command, Neil.

]]> ec431e35f7cc58f461d5dc23f0292861 metalman replied to the topic endcap venting in the forum Shrouds and Moderators https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/endcap-venting/#post-207759 Sat, 02 Aug 2014 01:49:03 -0400 I made a threaded end cap for a customer that replaced the factory end cap,It slid into the frame and was threaded to accept the shroud he had me make so that he could screw it off and on when he wanted to. It had a cap to screw onto the threads and hide them when he did not want the shroud on it, Neil.

]]> d87af7edc82f0081f06575f0b800e83c metalman replied to the topic Edgun Lelya Silencer Adapter in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/edgun-lelya-silencer-adapter/#post-182520 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 03:01:04 -0400 You guys who need these adapters, I am backed up with work but if you contact me I will see what I can do for you, please do not ask for more than one right now though as I am swamped and will have to do these in my evenings, Neil.

]]> 38cff271f77279850d55397300724c5a metalman replied to the topic Edgun Lelya Silencer Adapter in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/edgun-lelya-silencer-adapter/#post-182460 Tue, 29 Oct 2013 04:08:34 -0400 Hoot give me a holler and I will see what I can do for you, you have my e-mail address, all the best, Neil.

]]> 869d39001fa2fafb4fc981ffa5a22327 metalman replied to the topic 30 Cal Crickets in the forum Kalibrgun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/30-cal-crickets/#post-181310 Tue, 15 Oct 2013 02:44:13 -0400 There was a slight hitch with the barrels, I believe it has been sorted out now and they are going to be producing them very soon, Neil.

]]> fa9bf19ec3c708c2957ebcb0dfac8db1 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/19/#post-178981 Mon, 02 Sep 2013 04:15:03 -0400 Nasser it appears that Gabe has modified his shroud in a different way to Horace so it is quite possible his shroud is quieter than Horace’s, without hearing it live there is no way I can comment on it. I thought that Horace’s shroud was very loud but he assured me it was quieter than the stock shroud, if that is so the stock gun must be very…Read more

]]> 92fa016c44f38773627301288d50e141 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/19/#post-178979 Mon, 02 Sep 2013 03:53:07 -0400 What you are saying is not true, good quality meters use weighted metering and read at different pitch levels so they read dbs at different pitches, you might read with it set to A and get 65 dbs and read it set to B and get 75dbs, better meters also have a fast and slow response, if you do not have settings on the meter and just use a phone or…Read more

]]> b15fafd1faf4b64730ab3d3f30fece13 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/19/#post-178975 Mon, 02 Sep 2013 02:55:10 -0400 That sounds a lot more realistic,as it is louder than a Marauder and to reduce a guns report by 25dbs is quite something, if my Mrod was 85 I would put them closer to 87 than 67, they were definitely louder than the Marauder but not by a huge amount, Neil.

]]> cbaa45ac8bbd98fc55c206f45a8c34fe metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/19/#post-178971 Mon, 02 Sep 2013 02:08:29 -0400 By the way Gabe I also shot the gun inside the house and asked my wife her opinion, she had no idea what shrouds were on the gun, the first was Horaces modified shroud, she said my god that things loud, then I slid on my one piece and fired it, she said oh thats a lot better, that is a lot quieter. I am just baffled as to your findings, they just…Read more

]]> ef17c667d08080eb6706709ce4d9fca5 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/19/#post-178970 Mon, 02 Sep 2013 01:42:15 -0400 Gabe I have to say I am completely confused by your findings, when I tried the single shroud it sounded considerably quieter than the factory shroud and not much louder than the 2 piece shroud. Even Horace had said the same thing to me in his findings, he told me he thought the one piece was not much louder than the 2 piece and both were…Read more

]]> 366e5a77f2575c729450a9f0bca7446b metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/16/#post-178365 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:51:06 -0400 quote :As seen in this picture, the aluminum shroud does NOT use that bushing, but slides into the breech opening and centers itself with the lip Neil put on it. Absent is the support that the OEM bushing added to the barrel. It has an O-ring on the inside, hugs the barrel tightly, fits into the recessed breech firmly, and does provide additional…Read more

]]> c58d76b0aa4e7fa7d2aafd096f2ed55f metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/16/#post-178363 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:00:22 -0400 By the way Horace and anyone else who might not be aware of this, the internals on a shroud or LDC alone can cause a change in POI, as long as it is close enough to sight in the scope and get on center and groups are tight there is nothing wrong with the scope or shroud. The way they are made they will cause turbulence inside the tube around the…Read more

]]> 13d337e3710733181c68f03e6f8f474d metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/15/#post-178362 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:50:25 -0400 Horace as I said to you I suspect the clipping is my fault, I made them all to fit a .22 caliber as that was how the gun was marked, I had no idea Ed marked his 25 caliber guns with .22. Once these are put together center boring them is not accurate with carbon fiber as it does not have fine tolerances and the OD varies, If you send them back to…Read more

]]> 1fe81d8a04dbb487b4d4a8766b09abc3 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/15/#post-178358 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:06:55 -0400 By the way if the only reason there is tension on the barrel is to stop it coming loose in the threads surely a touch of Loctite on the threads would be worth it to be able to use the gun with a shroud that makes it a lot quieter, small trade off in my books!

]]> f56d7a4ae21771b7c6246da1d371bf00 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/15/#post-178357 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:58:39 -0400 I do not believe what you are saying has any bearing on the accuracy, we will only know when Horace has tested the gun with the shrouds on it, Neil.

]]> 558f714a73cc93344e671ea2b17c8443 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/15/#post-178313 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 03:02:12 -0400 The .177 standard gun may be very quiet but you need to hear the 25 caliber long version, even with Horace’s holes it sounded horribly loud to me. I still do not get this barrel tension thing you keep talking about, barrels do not need to be held in tension. There is no point in my arguing this with any of you any further, you want to believe the…Read more

]]> d76a49a0dc4e5c5acba28cf4b271d728 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/14/#post-178305 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 02:05:38 -0400 If he is saying that the tension makes the gun more accurate then Horaces tests will tell if this is so or not. Attaching anything to the barrel with the threads will pull the barrel forwards and not push the barrel against the block as has been suggested. I can not say until the testing is done by Horace whether or not the tension will effect the…Read more

]]> 4d7e9527c65108f065b9318d010dbd15 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/14/#post-178299 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:40:37 -0400 I have watched the video many times and did so before I even said I would make a prototype, tension on the barrel does not hold the barrel against the front of the breach block, the tension holds the shroud on and helps keep everything aligned. The barrel does not even touch the front part of the block it has a rubber o-ring there to allow it to…Read more

]]> f05f5ffd3f2662319c3c3ef08a9ae327 metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/14/#post-178297 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:28:05 -0400 My shroud is a tight fit on the barrel and the frame of the gun and holds it in place, the barrel is not going to move anywhere. It is screwed into a block held in place with 2 allen
screws at the breach and will also be held firmly by the shroud, the barrel doe not need tension. I think this will be answered after Horace has had time to check…Read more

]]> d92b80cedb0fec13e761e5a3e7a4dcfa metalman replied to the topic Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively... in the forum EdGun https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/making-the-25-edgun-quiet-easily-and-inexpensively/page/14/#post-178289 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 00:43:02 -0400 I make the one piece shroud slide into the front of the breach block, the shroud is made to fit the barrel and not have the rubber o-ring, there is no way the barrel is going to move with the way it is attached to the gun. I have no idea why you are all paranoid about the barrel tension, free floating barrels are used in a lot of high end air guns…Read more

]]> 5839c425746a35598a7b84fd77e5c6ee metalman replied to the topic Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague! in the forum BullPup General Chat https://talonairgun.com/forums/topic/silent-but-deadly-cricket-thanks-to-neil-clague/page/2/#post-175385 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:17:10 -0400 [quote=”renval”]A .25 cal shroud+LDC will work on .22 gun, I mean the performance will decrease?
I would like to use it for both guns, I guest I have to stick to the Crickets if I want to do that.[/quot

Having one made to fit both calibers is the way to go, the difference in report because of the larger hole is not noticeable to the ear and I…Read more

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