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Talon tank Hydro testing. Is it needed

Hi, my talon tank is over 10 years old. Do i need to do dot hydrotesting. Who does it. Please recommend. The tank is in perfect condition but i want to be safe.

Talon/Talon SS

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quote moneyshot:

i agree, but while were at it, what if it fails against your face… 😯

I suppose it depends on the face. If its Jennifer Aniston’s face its a huge tragedy. If its any one of the Sex in the City women, no great loss.

quote ssshooter:

If a scuba tank fails people die under water. If a af tank fails in a storge unit nobody cares. I still say be careful but you can likely get a few years more than five before a test.

i agree, but while were at it, what if it fails against your face… 😯

If a scuba tank fails people die under water. If a af tank fails in a storge unit nobody cares. I still say be careful but you can likely get a few years more than five before a test.

I dont know who posted that 9000psi number, but I doubt it on our little 3k tanks.
After all most tanks only have a 5K or 7.5K burst disk, I think someone just threw it out as an example.

Its nothing to dwell on, as we don’t know exactly what they do do!

But, I do know if you are taking your tanks to a scuba or paintball shop,
they are not suppose to fill it if its out of hydro.

quote HauntedMyst:

Isn’t putting 9000 psi into the tank doing more to stress it than most who take care of their guns will ever stress it? I can understand the logic of putting maybe 4K or 5K into it but 3 times the tank max? It seems like tank testing is part safety, part generating new tank sales by blowing them up.

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Fucked if I would use an AirForce tank that had been gassed up to 9000psi 😯
If they can take 9000psi without blowing up, I’m happy to have a un tested tank that only ever goes to 3000psi

Isn’t putting 9000 psi into the tank doing more to stress it than most who take care of their guns will ever stress it? I can understand the logic of putting maybe 4K or 5K into it but 3 times the tank max? It seems like tank testing is part safety, part generating new tank sales by blowing them up.

I guess but since my face sits on it when I shoot I plan on hydroing mine. I hydroed my scba tank because it had the same DOT stamp.

I’ll be dead before I worry about it I don’t want stamps all over my tank.

if you dont subject the tank to extreme pressure cycles, id say fuck it…

I emailed AF about testing my tank. Here is the reply:

Thank you for your email. To have your air tanks hydro tested, please contact your local suba dive shop or paintball shop. Some shops will take of this or refer you to a facility that provides this service. We do know of a company that has assured us they could hydro test our air tanks but they are located in California. To inquire, call Spectrum Gas Products at 714-444-0477. Cost to test is $25.00 plus a $10.00 fee for return shipping.

If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.

DOT stamp on the bottle means hydro

The following quote was sourced from an AirForce Owner’s Manual.

AirForce Air Rifles (Condor, Talon SS & Talon)
http://www.airforceairguns.com/v/vspfiles/assets/manuals/Manual_AirRifle.pdf

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The air tank is a pressure vessel that conforms to U.S. Department of Transportation specifications. It must be hydrostatically tested every five years. A date is stamped into the metal of the tank near the neck, giving the month and year of the last hydrostatic test. Contact AirForce for instructions on how to get your air tank tested when the time comes.

Interesting article in Pyramd Air Blog.
Author … guessed it … Gaylord.

Hydrostatic testing of pressure vessels, including scuba tanks
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/12/hydrostatic-testing-of-pressure.html
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/12/hydrostatic-testing-of-pressure.html#c116549100772940274

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The DOT requirement is to hydro all vessels over 2 inches in outside diameter, so most rifles do not qualify. Only the AirForce air rifles have a hydro test. They also have a safety burst disk.

All 10 meter guns with removable reservoirs have dates after which the tanks should not be used. This is in the owner’s manual. They do not get hydroed.

quote ssshooter:

Plus our tanks never go down to 500psi like a scuba. So the flexing of the alloy is limited to smaller variation 2800->2000 psi. Smaller variation means less fatigue.

The rule on tank diameter is 2″ ours is slightly wider, hence the DOT stamp on the collar. So we are meant to hydro every 5 years. I’m not sure I will. I suspect after 8-10 years I will just replace it or buy a different gun.

Well then, I really did learn something new. I was under the impression we never needed hydo testing. But, I will yield to SSS’s info on this one, I just don’t know that much about it. Take your tank to your local dive shop/paintball shop and see what they say, I would think they know what all those numbers are about.

Plus our tanks never go down to 500psi like a scuba. So the flexing of the alloy is limited to smaller variation 2800->2000 psi. Smaller variation means less fatigue.

The rule on tank diameter is 2″ ours is slightly wider, hence the DOT stamp on the collar. So we are meant to hydro every 5 years. I’m not sure I will. I suspect after 8-10 years I will just replace it or buy a different gun.

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