Pls help w/ shotstring R3 .25 Long =) – and some new Pics
I have finally shot my R3 .25 Long through the chrony.
I have a feeling that I need some major adjustments =)
Can you guys chime in. Will I be able to lower the speed with hammer adjustments or just go straight to regulator adjustment?
Why such high variation in speed?
Here is results.
60 shot string. ProChrono w/ IR lights.
Starting pressure 200 bar and last shot is at 110 bar.
This is what shot string looks like … eeeek!
922 – 1
920
915
912
915
904
913
905
907
905 – 10
908
900
903
905
905
900
903
908
911
920 – 20
917
924
938
946
942
960
978
973
976
986 – 30
988
987
998
997
998
1002
1003
1001
1003
1005 – 40
1003
1004
1001
1002
998
995
994
992
987
984 – 50
982
972
953
945
938
917
897
897
887
878 – 60
Little help please =)
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Nice gun set & scope.
Good shooting string 😛
I still waiting for my Edgun R3 .25 😳
F and D, I thought that you would need to give the regulator one more adjustment but, a little more HST was worth a try.
I have seen guys posts on their FX Royales, Rapids, Air Arms and even some Daystates that didn’t have a 80 shot string that looked as good as your first string after adjusting the regulator! How much did you turn the reg in? If you went 1/3 turn in, another 1/9 turn should get you really close. Don’t do as I usually do and go too far and then have to go back a little! 😆
I am really looking forward to seeing what you come up with! I thought that my R3 got more shots than my R2.5 25 cal. I never took the time to count them. I know that it does get more shots and I don’t know why. I don’t think that Ed has made any changes to the air valve/regulator assembly.
I did end up with a BSA barrel on my R2.5, all 25 cal BSA barrels are actually .243” and the pellets were noticeably harder to push thru the barrel. The added friction could have caused a reduced shot count but, I don’t remember getting a lower shot count when I swapped the Matador’s LW barrel for the BSA.
Ed has said that he has LW make the R3’s barrels with new specs that he has come up with. IIRC, Ed has said that the new barrels lands and grooves are cut smoother or polished? The new smoother barrels might be increasing the shot count.
F&D, Do you know if your poi change when your velocity increases toward the end of your string. I have the R3 in .22 and I’m going through the same process of trying to figure out tension spring and regulator adjustment, though I have yet to adjust the reg. My first string provided quite a shook factor. I got 159 fps spread in just 25 shots from a fill of 200 bars to 100 bars. They’re better now with the help of Tedd and Ed but still no cigar. Good luck. Though these guns are supposed to be tuned from Ed I look at it this way – we’re getting to know these guns in such a way we would not have otherwise. Being that we can’t just ship them back for a quick tune we are forced to learn the gun and that is a good thing. Makes you appreciate this forum that much more! I’ll be following your post with interest.
😕 Looks like it just raised the string up about 10-12fps… 😕 The spread increased as well (from about 20 to 30fps)…
Looks like OG’s suggestion of turning down the reg again (slightly) is golden (as usual). 🙂
Ok. here is new string.
Cranked up the HTS a bit . Looks like average is 914 for first 50 shots then climb and fall. looks like I lost about 10 shots from the last string.
What you guys think?
1 910 – 200 bar
2 918
3 913
4 912
5 911
6 910
7 916
8 908
9 910
10 913
11 910
12 912
13 910
14 913
15 911
16 908
17 911
18 910
19 908
20 913 – 170 bar
21 918
22 913
23 916
24 913
25 917
26 919
27 917
28 911
29 915
30 913
31 913
32 915
33 917
34 915
35 913
36 916
37 918
38 916
39 916
40 918 – 140 bar
41 917
42 918
43 919
44 913
45 917
46 918
47 918
48 926
49 922
50 923 – 125 bar
51 925
52 932
53 933
54 935
55 940
56 942
57 938
58 942
59 938
60 940
61 937
62 936
63 935
64 935
65 932
66 934
67 931
68 927
69 927
70 918 – 100 bar
71 919
72 913
73 898
:8:
be a u ti ful!
I’m just waiting for more of F&D’s awesome photographs…! 😀
Oh, and some accuracy testing too. 😀 😀
Photographs. Sure!
Here is some recent once. (R3 .22 standard is not mine, (others are mine) but had couple days to play with it and run some numbers through the chrony)
Isn’t wanting advice the title of the thread!? 😉
I’m just waiting for more of F&D’s awesome photographs…! 😀
Oh, and some accuracy testing too. 😀 😀
You are getting very close. You could up the HST a little, start the string at 910 and see if the hump flattens out or, the regulator could be turned down just a little more. If you flatten the hump out you might pick up another shot or two.
LOL I am always looking for advice! =) All I have been doing today is playing with rifles and shooting whole lot of pellets through the crony laying on my belly in my bedroom. LOL
I will turn HST up a bit and shot another string. Stay tuned for results. LOL.
F and D, That string is lookin pretty good! I know that you didn’t ask for any advice but, that has never stopped me before! 😆
You are getting very close. You could up the HST a little, start the string at 910 and see if the hump flattens out or, the regulator could be turned down just a little more. If you flatten the hump out you might pick up another shot or two.
Yeah a .25 edgun would be tight!
Sweet, 80 shots!!.
But I think you need just a tad more hammer strike (from what I have seen in zoc’s and other tuning posts), that will probably add some fps to the beginning of the string. It looks like the hammer is finally overcoming the pressure and so the fps climb 10-20 fps at about shot 55 and then falls off the reg 20 shots later…
I think the initial velocities should be in the 920’s and just stay around that (+/- 5 to 7fps) for 60+ shots and then fall off the reg at about 130bar… This is with the 18 grain pellets of course. (Apparently this is the “standard” from the factory).
Damn these EdGuns are awesome, i’m really beginning to see how they work and how to work on them. Something about going through the tuning process really makes a rifle sweet to me, you learn how it works and what to look for instead of not knowing anything about it.
Reminds me of my first RC car I built from a kit of parts. I knew exactly what every single screw did. Later I bought a ready to run car and had no idea what most of the things were. Something about the process of building the first one from nothing made it easier to use and maintain (and fix when I crashed)…
I’m thinking horrible thoughts here. Should I sell one of my USFt’s and get a Matador… 😈 IF only Ed made one in 177, i’d be all over it!!! 😉
Ok. Here is what the shot string looks like. 😯
I love my R3 25 now! Difference is Night and Day!
50 regulated shots of 897fps +/- 3 then small climb up to 920fps for 30 more shots!
1 898
2 897
3 895
4 898
5 899
6 897
7 896
8 899
9 898
10 899
11 901
12 897
13 901
14 902
15 901
16 897
17 895
18 895
19 899
20 897
21 900
22 904
23 900
24 905
25 902
26 905
27 902
28 901
29 901
30 897
31 902
32 899
33 899
34 896
35 898
36 900
37 896
38 897
39 898
40 896
41 899
42 896
43 894
44 899
45 896
46 894
47 895
48 899
49 896
50 897
51 891
52 897
53 903
54 908
55 906
56 910
57 915
58 920
59 922
60 919
61 924
62 922
63 921
64 925
65 923
66 922
67 925
68 921
69 922
70 922
71 921
72 922
73 920
74 917
75 913
76 912
77 910
78 905
79 901
80 888
81 870
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It’s like having a whole squad of specialists gunsmiths at your beck and call to fix, tune, or dial in, your expensive pcp rifle.
That’s why I keep reading most of the posts. You learn a lot about things you didn’t think about before.
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