cocking problem
Hallo,
I bought a secondhand frame and triggergroup, after installing everything I can’t cock the gun properly: the breech only stays cocked when I pull the trigger when pushing the breech backwards. I’m sure all the triggerparts are in the right place. Does this sound familiar to someone?
I tried the supersear and the orginal parts, also different hammers, it all doesn’t matter. Who knows the solution?
Gert
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aaah…I found it ❗
Posts by Cygnus X.
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2216
Here is my attempt to describe the issue and solution:
My problem began after removing the not so dependable safety. So here is what I remember.
My hammer sear nolonger had the safety block spring to assist holding the sear to the rear, where it engages the intermediate lever. So, some brilliant TAG member, obviously not me, suggested deepening the notch in the intermediate lever. DO NOT mess up the mating latch surfaces. Mine had a cutaway behind the intermediate levers latching surface so it allowed a little gap between the latch surface and where I carefully ground out a little deeper notch. I used a dremel cut off disk.
As a result, as you release pressure on the cocking knob, the hammer pushes the sear a little further into the slot of the intermediate lever where SOMEHOW it makes a secure latch. You don’t mess with the sear, just the rearward depth of the intermediate lever.
If I had this problem again, I would first order a new trigger group. I felt as if I were doing brain surgery with a hammer.
GOOD LUCK ❗
Thanx Lurker#1, my problem is solved. Apparently some triggergroups don’t work without a safety. It was as easy as putting the safety back in!
Maybe you can post a pic or sketch of what you did to the sear so it works without the safety.
Gert
So putting in the safety should solve my problem also, I’ll try that.
Sorry I can’t find the brilliant person that helped cure my hammer latch problem BUT…..
Here is my attempt to describe the issue and solution:
My problem began after removing the not so dependable safety. So here is what I remember.
My hammer sear nolonger had the safety block spring to assist holding the sear to the rear, where it engages the intermediate lever. So, some brilliant TAG member, obviously not me, suggested deepening the notch in the intermediate lever. DO NOT mess up the mating latch surfaces. Mine had a cutaway behind the intermediate levers latching surface so it allowed a little gap between the latch surface and where I carefully ground out a little deeper notch. I used a dremel cut off disk.
As a result, as you release pressure on the cocking knob, the hammer pushes the sear a little further into the slot of the intermediate lever where SOMEHOW it makes a secure latch. You don’t mess with the sear, just the rearward depth of the intermediate lever.
If I had this problem again, I would first order a new trigger group. I felt as if I were doing brain surgery with a hammer.
GOOD LUCK ❗
Post them here so we can help
Pics mailed, didn’t manage to post them here.
pics man… we need pics!
you either have the spring in the wrong slot, or you need to stretch that spring out some… or both.
pics of what you have going on will help tho 😉
I’m getting desperate about this, tried all the above, none works. Anymore ideas?
It is really a strange thing, I can push the sears down with just a little amount of pressure with an allen wrench and it is cocked, but when I place the spring in and assamble everything it doesn’t work unless I play with the trigger while cocking…
Gert
If you loose the trigger guard screw a bit thus the hammer release then?
Sometimes this bolt/screw it to long or you need a thicker spacer between the screw head and trigger guard.
greetings and good luck from the netherlands wimone
YEA…
forgot bout that. i use a stainless cap screw of custom length, and moved the foregrip back.
Hi,
If you loose the trigger guard screw a bit thus the hammer release then?
Sometimes this bolt/screw it to long or you need a thicker spacer between the screw head and trigger guard.
greetings and good luck from the netherlands wimone
i didnt presume it was the safety, but all related pieces i firmly believe must go for optimal function, not to mention youre safer without it…
Thanx for the tips, I’ll try to put more upward spring tension on the sear. It has nothing to do with the safety as I removed it.
You’ll hear how it works out.
Gert
Thanks guys – great information. 😀
It’s got a metal trigger shoe so I made it to have less than 1mm over travel.
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Re visiting those posts above, brings to light more interesting ideas ie.. moving the sear spring slight when using a heavier hammer.
Also, looking at the picture provided, and trying to figure out how Cygnus X put the small spring in sideways, my hat rack whispered to me, ‘why not leave everything in with the exception of flipping the safety block top to bottom. If it would still fit, it would put a little more rearward pressure on the sear but of course disable the safety function.
I would rather have a reliable safety but mine caused the rifle to fire a couple times as I released the safety. 😳
Now, more than ever, I have to keep my rifle pointed down range or at the ground away from my feet during and after pellet insertion. Loading while pointed at the ceiling can become a holy experience…Going on 2 years and no-one but me has noticed the small piece of scotch tape on the florescent light plastic panel…dah 😳