EDgun Matador R3, caliber .30, single shot
Here is some information about new EDgun Matador, caliber .30.
1. Length — it became longer for about 50 mm. due to a new moderator (the same thing will be with the long one)
2. Weight — it became a little heavier due to the diameter of the barrel 14 mm instead of 12 as it was before, but not critically.
3. Moderator — new design, eccentric, diameter 38 mm, no thread on the case, just two O-rings.
4. Sound — VERY, VERY comfortable sound, to my opinion sounds quitter then .22, I can hear only the hammer.
5. Pellet — JSB .30 pellet, weight 2.90 grams (44 grain).
6. Speed of the pellet — with the standard regulator (set at 160 bar) — 270 m/sec (886 f/sec).
7. The energy for standard is 105 Joles (77.4 Ft-Lbf) .
8. Accuracy — about 20 mm (0.75 inch) at 50 meters (55 yards). Below you can see the shots to the bear can at 75 and 100 meters.
9. Barrel — made by Lothar Walther, especially for JSB .30, weight 2.9 grams (44 grain) according to my specification, choked, but very lightly.
10. Shot count for standard — 25 shots from 220 to 140 bar.
11. Volume of the reservoir — 270 cm3 (the after regulator space is bigger then at .22 and .25).
12. Length of the barrel for standard — 477 mm.
On October of 10th I went for hunting in the morning. EDgun Matador R3, standard, caliber .30, 44 grain JSB pellet, speed of the pellet 270 m/sec, one shot, distance about 50 meters. This bird:
Very tasty, by the way.
Here is the place where the pellet got in:
Here is the place where pellet went out:
No chances to survive for the bird such a size (about 6 kg.) A lot of blood on the ground. I am impressed…
At the same day I had 15 free minutes, bad mood and was in need to relax. Went for the nearest wood, took EDgun Matador R3, standard, .30 caliber. It was zeroed at 50 meters, the one I use this morning for hunting. I used Ballistic Calculator “Strelok”, made by Russian guy. I put a beer can at 75 meters and even didn’t tried to use paper to “zero” POI at this distance, just took out my IPhone, opened Strelok, changed to EDgun Matador .30, found that at 77 meters it will be second mildot from the cross and made 10 shots. Here is the result:
Then I made a picture of the can, put it vertical, moved back at 100 meters and shot another 5 shots. Here is the result:
There was a light wind from the right to left, about 2-3 m/sec, I didn’t made any calculations to the wind. Strelok told me that 100 meters will be half a mil down from the fourth mil dot at my scope. I put a fourth mildot to the top of the can and got all 5 shots down to the can.
I didn’t use any rests, tables or anything like that. I was sitting in my car, shot from the driver’s window. To my opinion not bad for such a position. The ballistic of the 44 grain JSB .30 pellets is equal to their other pellets so I don’t need to get used to new corrections by the mildot reticle.
I think I would change my Matador for hunting from .25 to .30 🙂
On October of 11th, just at 7:30 I got out home, took a car and went to woods. In 8:15 or something like that I saw a black grouse on the right side of the road. He saw me also, I stopped the car and watched him, taking R3 .30 ready to shoot, but as it was on the other side of the car I couldn’t shoot. The bird slowly moved to the bushes and directed to the thicket. I opened the door of the car, got out and moved back along the road taking the car between me and the bird. When I was about 50 meters out of the car, I took the right side of the road and moved to the place where I expected to find the bird, slowly. I reached the car, which was on the left on me and in few steps saw the silhouette in bushes, took the gun ready, but couldn’t see it in the scope through the branches. I was waiting about a minute or so, then the bird moved, I saw it in the scope through a lot of branched on bushes and shot. It moved quickly then fluttered for few second and that’s it. I loaded another pellet to the gun and moved closer to it. I found him dead.
I like this caliber as I doubt I could reach him with .22 through bushes. The pellet got in the very back side of him, penetrated through all his body and stuck somewhere near the neck. I was home at 9:30 after gutting it in the garage.
Today, on October 13th I decided to calculate how many shots will I have in standard Matador R3 in .30.
Here is the result.
Not bad, I think, 25 shots with average speed of 2.9 gram (44 grain) pellet at 270 m/sec (886 f/sec), from 220 bar to 140 bar. The average air consumption is 7.3 cm3 per one Jole of energy.
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Yep. It has been very cold,snowy, and windy around here since arrival of my .30 long.
Coupled with the end of deer season, work, and Christmas shopping/decoration duties there hasn’t been time for me to ring mine out.
I got mine sighted in and the accuracy looks to be there.
Hopefully in the next couple weeks decent shooting conditions and time will converge and I will better be able to answer.
Ironcross: if you ARE really made out of iron and want to see 100 yard groups from a 30 cal Matador, you can come to central Illinois. I will take you to my local gun club that has an outdoor 100 yard range.
You can brush the 6” of snow off of the shooting bench, deal with the current 20 degree ambient temps and the zero to 20 degrees below wind chill factor that the daily winter winds provide. You can shoot as many 100 yard groups as you want to.
I will let you use my 30 cal R3 Matador and I will gladly supply all of the pellets and air for your full day of shooting at the range.
I will sit in my heated truck and watch!
I also want to see what kind of groups that my 30 cal R3 shoots at 100 yards; I guess that I don’t want to see them badly enough to subject myself to what it would currently take for me to shoot them!
I have tried to do accurate 100 yard groups in winters past. I quickly found out that I can’t shoot accurately when I am shivering my ass off!
A small heated trailer that I could pull behind my truck might be my answer. I am looking into it.
Sorry, not much shooting time right now, and I can’t shoot 100 yards at home. probably after the frst if the year before I have time to shoot @ 100 yards.
?? Nothing ?? I would have thought someone would have some long-range accuracy reports
Does anybody have any updates on accuracy at 100 yds? Longest accuracy report I’ve seen is at 50 yds which I cant say convince me very much since I had a RS II .357 that could do 3/4″ at 50yds but at 100 that opened to 3″
Yes – the moderator design is very good. Effective and easy to clean. It just needs an alignment rod or index mark to install which is easy too.
Thank you, I will keep going on and maybe in the summer I will change the moderators.
Ed, please don’t give up on that new moderator design!
I hope you continue to use, and improve upon it, as it provides more volume to absorb noise, but does not increase the shroud length.
It is very innovative, and I congratulate you for having the balls to walk off the beaten track, and try something new that looks different, but works well!
Someone has to lead the way to new ideas.
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My .30 long arrived in the crappy state of California late yesterday! I didn’t have time to do anything but unbox it, but I’m hoping for some test time today.
And BTW, the way that Tony packed these could probably withstand having the brown truck run over it several times. Double boxed, form fitted end protectors and suspended in packing peanuts. Plus the protective carry case, and the outside of the boxed was marked fragile. Nice job Tony!
SECoda nice & congrats, that .30 SS Std. looks like a nice compact package.
We got some of that here in the crappy states like California and the NE states like New York. They suck too. Beautiful shooting and hunting terrain but controlled by Liberals in huge cities limiting larger rural territories in those states from afar. They need to slice those large cesspool cities away from the rural territories and pare back their circle of control. 😉
Hi Coda,
just to give you an example….
I heard that in germany they are installing new electricity distribution lines country wide.
When planning the installation of those lines they carefully design the maps not to come too close to “bird reserves areas” in order not to harm or bother them.
I just saw in tv a complaint of a citizen saying that nobody has asked him if he agrees the lines passing next to his house and that the birds and the wildlife in general have more rights than him.
Well that’s the situation almost everywhere here in western europe and I really do hope that nobody will ever ask for hunting with an airgun because that will be the moment where we will need special permissions even for a 2 joules airgun.
OK in germany they have the Oktoberfest, that’s as well a lot of fun.
ATB 😀
If there is no use for that beautiful powerful hunter’s tool in such a small package than Western Europe really sux and I have no use for it. 😀 That would be like living in the city limits here or in a condo. It just doesn’t make any sense at all. (just kidding I am sure there must be some redeeming qualities there)
With one full tin through it my std .30 has quickly become my small to medium game gun of choice (and I’ve got some guns 😯 ). Small, light, very powerful, and accurate pretty well covers it.
Hi ED,
nice picture there, I like it.
You look like the russian Jack N*cholson.
I’m not making fun of you, please believe me.
What I like most naturally is that “breath taking beauty” you are holding.
Unfortunately in western europe there is no use of it, paper punching in .177 is already more than enough.
Will you keep this new moderator design also on smaller calibers or is it meant exclusively for the .30 cal?
Thanks in advance and ATB 😀
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Hello Guys !!! In this thread a long time, there are no messages. I am very interested in Matador in 0.30 caliber. I would like to hear reviews and opinions of those who have this device. What speeds are You shooting? What is the accuracy of 100 metres? As well as pictures of Your Matador. I’d like to see a photo of Matador 0.30 in the long version.