1065 yds-Longest Distance Ever, To Hit Target, Air Powered-.
Hi All,
Kind of LONG, But tells story of that day. For any who THINK IT WAS EASY!
Yes I did it, Broke the 1000 yd distance with and air gun. The LONGEST “KNOWN” DISTANCE EVER TO HIT A TARGET WITH AIR POWER. AND A ¼” dia. bullet, 257”. I also exceeded the 1000 yd ranges absolute distance ….If you watch video and at end for the distance VIEW, look carefully and BEYOND the number boards of 1000 yds, just over the top is the berm/backstop bank 50 yds beyond, for the 24 shooting positions. My target is 15 yds beyond that up in the white triangle sloped bank to the left, with the white steel plate, and is 39” wide. A regulation NRA target is 72” x 72”, and I am little over ½ that size… Shooting from the 1000 yd shooting benches on firing line.
Set up, how it broke down….I first put up the steel plate in a cleared/raked spot at the end of the range and started this at 800 yds. I used a portable table to get my yardage distances back from plate. With my Plate 65 yds beyond the Ranges target frames, and I went back from my 905 yd half mile + video, I would have to set up 65 yds in front of the 1000 yd concrete benches for a 1000 yd shot. I said forget that, I will just set up on concrete bench and distance would be 1065 yds, and GO FOR IT ALL……This is what I did. Any longer distances, and I would have to set up portable table in the PARKING LOT.
That morning was tough…Up till then each 100 yd increase in distance I raised the scope rail the appropriate “guess”, using ballistic charts and several BC calculations, and had worked pretty well through 905 yds…I figured I needed an additional 30 MOA to get 1065 yds, from my 905 yd settings….WRONG!!
My buddy was with me this trip and we had radio’s, HIS…. Got set up ready to fire. Don’t put plate down range, until I can fire and either myself or buddy with my spotting scope see dust for correct elevation, hitting in the prepped dirt area. I fired and fired and saw NO DUST…..I aimed high, and higher, then low in the clearing and no dust….Then we saw dust at top of the clearing one shot. Aimed lower and varied aim point and nothing…Couldn’t believe it…Never had quite this much trouble before……..Then another dust cloud but nothing afterwards……Tried and tried……I was about ready to quit…..My buddy said drive me down and I’ll get behind the concrete pit wall, and see if I can see any hits………I drive him down and came back……I fired several shots and NOTHING………I figured I MUST BE LOW, so aimed above the cleared space a LOT……Radio says, I think I saw a weed move way LOW, try again……Did same thing and he tells me I hit a weedy bushy thing and fired a few more and was way low…I couldn’t SEE what he was talking about so I DRIVE DOWN AGAIN……..He shows me where IT was hitting…Dang like 20 ft LOW into weeds!! The several shots we DID SEE BEFORE with DUST, turned out to be RICOCHET’S that skipped upwards into our impact area and we wasted a lot of bullets, AIR and TIME!!!……I says get in, I have to drive back, remove scope and rail, and adjust way up on rear, so you can relax back at the line and have a snack…………I take the rail and scope off, put another 40 MOA in and re-mount all and start all over……. I had approximately 275 MOA for these shots and past the 900 yds the MOA really starts adding up. The Ballistic Charts are WRONG at these slow speeds. Friend using my 20-60×80 spotting scope, and I could see too with rifle scope. Fired a few more and finally on the correct MIL-DOT, we see dust fly…Fired several more on the correct mil dot that got me in middle of the dirt area. OK, let’s go AGAIN DOWN and set up the white steel plate.. …Drive down, back up the hill, set up plate, the camera on tripod, and turn on…drop him at the pit wall, 65 yds from the plate, and he has binoculars to spot the hits and a radio. DANG, I am tired by this time………..Hey, 74 yrs old gets like this!!
Fired a few to right of plate to get dust at middle of plate, or close for elevation……Fired ON PLATE, the radio says a hit, and he tells where on plate…..Get 5 on plate and that last one is in the bulls-eye, and I radio back. I am DONE and TIRED. WE DID what I set out to do all summer, find how far it COULD go…. (Hits WITH AIR-1000 yds+), the line is cold and driving down to pick up……My friend was walking to plate as I was driving up the hill to target , camera still running, and he walked in front of target and gave me the SIGNAL of “YEAH”, pointing to the bulls-eye hit? I left it in video. We were only ones there that morning.
Video is in PORTRAIT MODE and zoomed very tight to give a full screen view…. I want to see the HITS and I know where the GROUND IS If it bothers you, turn 90* clockwise in your MIND 😉
Added Music Track to this one-Click LOW RIGHT CORNER on video, to see FULL SCREEN— https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1–WcmZ2Cw
2nd video of same with a different jumping sound track 😎 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJuI-8SdOQ
Yes I could do it again with less fuss, as I have the information gained, to apply first time
Comments, Suggestions are welcome :suprisedn:
Gun is with GUNSMITH for serious modifications as of 11/18/15, to HOPEFULLY correct a vertical shifting problem I still have….If it is successful, next season will be for much better accuracy at distance!!!
1-Pic of me with target my buddy wanted to commemorate the occasion, 2-From Plate looking back to rifle, 3-rifle at angle to hit at range, 4-scope rail elevation, 5-smash bullets at 1065 yds CLICK PICS and will enlarge
Added another PIC of the LBT 90 grain I used that casts for me at 92 grains, with two .22 caliber PELLETS for comparison. Click pic to enlarge full screen.
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Not sure what info was to me but I do understand the difference between my pellet gun and your rifle. Yuuuge difference.
I found it pretty impressive that some are hitting soda cans out past 400/800/1000 yards with air. Those people put a lot of effort and resources into doing that. Must be expending a lot of thought and bucks to get that done. Looks like fun.
I will be very happy if I can spiral a pellet into a soda can at 100 yards with my older Condor.
:whistle:
Giles
I just started working on a Condor .22 (old model?) and was hoping to do well at 100 yards. I better after reading about your success!
Just to be clear here, My gun is NOT A PELLET gun as is yours. SO my info to you only applied to MY GUN and shooting BULLETS at 92 grains…….I Only have one pellet gun, Custom Built RAW and i always shoot it at 100 yds, in .22 caliber….It works fine ……If the wind that day is above 10 mph i do shoot at the 50 yd target as 3-4″ groups with a lot of wind at 100 yds, are not fun…..
Carl
Wizards work. You must dream “being the bullet” most nights. Hats off to you.
I just started working on a Condor .22 (old model?) and was hoping to do well at 100 yards. I better after reading about your success!
This is the scope and scroll down to see reticle http://www.hawkeoptics.com/sidewinder-8-32×56-20x-mil-dot.html
The rail is also a HAWKE and it is plain…..I add the BUBBLE LEVEL TO THE RAIL…Have them on all my F-Class rigs. Simple, cheap and effective http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/optic-accessories/scope-anti-cant-devices/bubble-level-prod1758.aspx
Carl
Got it. What power Hawk Optics scope and what reticle? Also, I see you have it mounted on a rail that has a built in level…who makes that?
You must have had your scope canted so much that you could see your barrel through your scope … lol
With MY RIFLE, 20 MOA doesn’t buy much……It will depend on bullet weight and fps fired at……But with my 92 gr i shot above video with, If your scope was dialed for a 50 yd zero, 20 more minutes of angle will get you to 200 yds with scope centered……Now if you have 25 moa VERTICLE left in scope turrets about 300 yds are it……. MORE PSI and speed will get you further but each bullet has a speed it likes for best accuracy and that most generally is not the fastest.
Click and enlarge the pics of the rifle and close up of scope and you can see the scope is angled to see end of barrel and how much rear rail is raised. Focused at INFINITY and ONLY CLEAR TARGET was in scope view……I had SIDE MOUNT but never had to use it as barrel never was in the view and wouln’t focus in inches that close anyway. I think about 10 yds minimum focus?
Carl
How far would you say you could accurately shoot using a 20moa rail?
You must have had your scope canted so much that you could see your barrel through your scope … lol
On this video the 92 grain bullets were 1000 fps……..I DIDN’T have chrono on the shoot but TESTING/TUNE, they ran 1000 -1005 fps for 204 lbs of energy..With 3750 psi
Carl
congrats Carl. i can only dream of leaning a little from you. good inspiration mate
all that really matters , you shared with the rest of us , whether others need proof doesn’t matter , your friend knows and God knows that’s all that matters . I
need no proof because I have once a long time ago walked in your shoes .
FROM : THE BIRDMAN
Thanks for your thoughts Sir…………….No one has said they don’t believe it….Some have the need for recognition or fame in their life, and records are important to them. Just the doing and succeeding, and having those memories are enough for me 😎 ….Only TODAY COUNTS, all else is in the past………. I did have my friend on the 800 yd and 1065 yd video’s as witness. ..I am retired and others have different schedules..So when weather indicated low wind next morning, get up by 4am, and I leave and arrive in the dark to set up by sunrise,(usually the lowest wind), also drive 1 hour and 10 minutes to get to that range, not everyone wants to go :suprisedn: My friend did on 2 occasions….So I am happy in that and sharing the getting to these distances is enough……..I read of TOFAZFOU exploits with the soda can video at 1/4 mile…Those and threads on here of the .257 and i had my first one 2 months later…….I was inspired by his and others. Hopefully what I accomplished will inspire others to PUSH outside the box of the accepted norm?
Carl
Maybe it’s posted somewhere above and I missed it, but I was wondering what your muzzlevelocity is?
Carl , You sir have my deepest respect . I know how you feel and you really do not need to prove to the world of your deeds , you know for yourself and that is
all that really matters , you shared with the rest of us , whether others need proof doesn’t matter , your friend knows and God knows that’s all that matters . I
need no proof because I have once a long time ago walked in your shoes .
FROM : THE BIRDMAN
Thanks, and NO INTEREST in Guinness………I know it is a record and for me that is enough…….I ONLY have to satisfy me….. :smilen:
Carl
Thanks, and I agree, it was quite the accomplishment……..Took perseverance and a lot of work to get it done…..It still amazes me just how far a PUFF of air can make that 92 gr bullet GO…..And i was doing it even :suprisedn:
Carl
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I found it pretty impressive that some are hitting soda cans out past 400/800/1000 yards with air. Those people put a lot of effort and resources into doing that. Must be expending a lot of thought and bucks to get that done. Looks like fun.
I will be very happy if I can spiral a pellet into a soda can at 100 yards with my older Condor.
:whistle:
Giles
My mistake……I was replying to the person who asked about what a 20 moa rail would do for him…..Then you commented about your pellet gun…….Didn’t want any mis-understanding as you know, not the same type of gun, except air powered. And the 700 yds Soda Cans was mine and as far as I know, no one has done it further out……TOFAZFOU did them first at 445 yds…….
Thanks……..Carl