Trouble adjusting to off-hand shooting with shrouded Condor
I have a .22 Condor. I also have a 12″ barrel and the SS end cap. The SS is a lot more comfortable to shoot off hand than the Condor, but I like having the Condor power.
When I do off hand shooting, the .22 Condor is about as much as I can handle accurately. The Condor is too loud to shoot without my shroud. When I use my shroud, it is great to shoot bench rested, but I just can’t seem to get the hang of it off hand.
Fortunately, I also have a micro-meter tank and if I use it with my condor, the noise level is fine and I don’t have the balance problems of the shroud when doing off hand shooting.
Have any of you gotten to the point where you can do off handed shooting well with a shrouded Condor (mine is a talon tunes shroud)? Any pointers on technique? Maybe I just need to work out more and build up some more strength and endurance to better handle the rifle.
I’m thinking about maybe purchasing an 18″ barrel. That may be a good compromise between power and a manageable size.
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Slings always help in the kneeling, sitting, and prone positions but I’ve never found them a great help in offhand. Although I’ve trained myself to use it anyway in offhand, not to steady the aim but to swing the rifle around from carry position slung on the shoulder to shooting in the blink of an eye. You should always practice that, the rule of thumb is from your carry position to 1 aimed shot in less than 2 seconds.
I can do it with time to spare with a normal rifle, but the condor’s contours don’t lend itself to easy swinging so have never tried it. I don’t carry the condor in the shoulder slung position, I usually carry it cradled in front of me, point down.
If the weight of a condor bothers you, you have not tried competitive position shooting. A normal rifle here weighs in at around 14 lbs or more for a women’s rifle and close to 18 lbs for a men’s. A competitive heavy barrel installed into a condor frame would completely fill up the inside of the frame with solid steel.
walt
I think a shorter barrel will help , But I havent seen anyone suggest a sling.
slings work great .
You need to be consistent. Even if you induced frame flex and long as you did it the same (which would be very hard) you should get repeatable results. Try resting the gun on your open, upturned palm. Let your elbow rest on your belly. Take a full deep breath, let half out and squeeeeeze the trigger. If you are squeezing the trigger right, it should almost be a surprise when the gun fires. Also, make sure your gun shoots the pellets your using good from a bench, otherwise you won’t know if it’s you or the gun. HTH.
crow about (not even a great guess no less laser rangefinder) 75 yards in the top of an oak tree. I shot dead! dove in a an oak tree about same distance one shot nothing did not even see or hear pellet. second shot dead. 2-3 at that distance off hand pretty dam good for a pellet gun!
for me te e-tac angled adapter seems to helps to
Thanks for the advice. Here is what I have gotten from the thread.
1) Others have some trouble shooting off hand with the Condor as well mainly due to ergonomics/balance
2) Balancing it with weights might help
3) Shooting form may help
4) Practice will definitely help.
I will try these suggestions and hopefully will get better at it. Thanks again for the advice. Please let me know if you have any other ideas.
I have been amazed at the condor for off hand shooting! I only shot once in a while (maybe 3 shots a day offhand) but cannot believe how good it is. I have never shot a pellet gun I liked more. I have the talon ss and prefer the condor when shooting offhand. talon ss is too small!
Maybe those ankle/wrists weights that slide on may fit onto the tank pretty good.
Don’t know about the condor, but I shot some high power competition for a while and the guys would add weight to balance the guns. Of course, their rifles weighted close to 20lbs, which would be a bit much for actually carrying, but if you could find a way to add weight to the back (maybe a scuba weight strapped to the bottle) they you may could balance it out to your liking.
Balance is important. Hard to shoot a gun offhand that you are fighting to hold level.
And don’t worry about frame flex right now. It’s not going to be a huge deal, learn to shoot it well then worry about that.
On that note though, I am not very good offhand with my condor. I can pick off 3″ targets at 100 yards all day with my other guns, but can’t seem to do well with the condor.
i have a HEAVY barrel in my condor .700 dia nbull bull barrel with a shroud and i find that the weight helps me hold it steady for off hand shooting but it does get tireing after a day of shooting… 👿
Frame flex? Wow. I think the biggest hindrance to me is the trigger. I’ve done the over travel, pre load screw mods. I still want to get it lighter.
i honestly dont know if its the length or it is too light
i like it off a bench part of the reason i made a bench rest style forarm for it.
for me i know it is because i didnt hold it gently and i was getting frame flex
Just checking to see if many people have been successful in adjusting to shooting with a large shroud on a 24″ barrel off hand. I am sure I would get better with practice, but it is an uphill climb compared to shooting without the shroud.
I forgot to say i also have a tt shroud. Is it just the length cause the don’t weigh much at all. And it on a 24 inch condor.
Sounds like a pretty good deal crow.
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1) Others have some trouble shooting off hand with the Condor as well mainly due to ergonomics/balance
2) Balancing it with weights might help
3) Shooting form may help
4) Practice will definitely help.
I will try these suggestions and hopefully will get better at it. Thanks again for the advice. Please let me know if you have any other ideas.
I have big problems with offhand using all of my guns….Give this a read…
It will improve your offhand shooting no matter what you choose to
shoot….
http://www.nygordprecision.com/notes.htm