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CNBC ‘Remington Under Fire’ Investigative Report.

CNBC Direct tv channel 355. 9:00PM EST Wednesday, which is tonight.

10 years after the tragic accident, that brought the Remington 700 safety design flaw to the eyes of the general public and lawyers filing 75 lawsuits, CNBC is having a special report.

I bought a Remington 700 knowing about the Safety Design Flaw and having actually experienced it. The gun dealer didn’t tell me about it, and I thought it had been fixed by Remington anyway.

My opinion is that you shoot someone so called “ACCIDENTLY”, it’s your fault. All my fire arms training, Teaches “MUZZLE CONTROL”. Which will prevent all so called “ACCIDENTAL” shootings.

When putting the safety on, or off, as always when ever handling a gun, muzzle control is the most important thing of all. “Never point a any gun toward anything you’re not intending to SHOOT.”

I don’t use the safety on my Remington 700, or any of my guns, as they are “ALWAYS CONSIDERED to be LOADED and DANGEROUS!”

There is no such thing as a safe gun period

Sam 😕

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Field & Stream ‘The “Gun Nut”‘ rebuttal Link : http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/hunting/2010/10/petzal-different-look-remington-model-700-trigger

Good reading and exactly how I felt about it?

Sam 😕

That was good reading.

I liked one of the comments. “people who buy a used 700 should have the trigger inspected.” This is probably very true. I don’t know if it is possible to tell if it has been adjusted or not, but at least you can adjust it to make sure it is safe. Like I said and like he said, adjusting the trigger wrong is a surefire way to make it unsafe, so I would be wary of any used ones.

And synopsys, I don’t know if you still read here, but if you do, the one I sold you is safe. 😀

Field & Stream ‘The “Gun Nut”‘ rebuttal Link : http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/hunting/2010/10/petzal-different-look-remington-model-700-trigger

Good reading and exactly how I felt about it?

Sam 😕

It’s called “Dodging The ‘”BULLET”‘

Sam 🙄

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Hello,
I do some digital work for Remington. If you’re looking for a credible source, check out Remington’s response to CNBC’s program: http://www.remington700.tv
Hope this helps clear up some confusion.
Best,
Jose

😕 Well that sucked.

First off, why was 3/4 of the video spent talking about a show and how it came to be? Absolutely nothing to do with the gun.

Second, it is one family that had no problems with their rifles. I had one and didn’t have a problem. Several here have ones and haven’t had problems.

This is about the fact that remington had a design, and they were told it was unsafe. There were people experiencing it, and the designer himself told them there was a problem. But instead of fixing it, they just made it anyway.

That is the real problem here. And their response had absolutely nothing to do with that. It sounded more like an advertisement than a response.

This is a sue happy country that wants to blame everyone else. If someone has a rifle that hasn’t been maintained or has been improperly altered, and it shoots when it shouldn’t, it is absolutely their fault. However, on the same note, if a brand new rifle shoots when it shouldn’t, it is the companies fault. People always look at the users pointing blame, but the company is doing the same thing.

Like I said, it isn’t the odds of whether one will or won’t have the problem. It is the fact that they can, remington knew about it, and they didn’t do anything about it.

Typical Remington rebuttal, never admit nothing. Just like toyota’s runaway hybrid.

I had, and know someone else that also had the same Remington 700 fire upon releasing the safety to the off position with a loaded chamber. I don’t know if the trigger had been tuned, but there is a very good chance it had been by very repital gunsmith.

I own a remington 700 SPS Varmint and it has a different factory trigger / safety group then the pre 1980 rifles.

The pre 1980 Remington 700 with the safety that locks the bolt closed and requires flipping the safety off to open the bolt is the rifles with the “Safety Flaw”.

I have tried and tried to duplicate the failure with my modern Remington 700 and failed to duplicate flaw, with empty chamber! I still don’t trust any gun safety!

There is no such thing as a safe gun…………………….. 😕

BTW I love my Remington 700 and will never, ever part with it?

Sam 😎

Hello,
I do some digital work for Remington. If you’re looking for a credible source, check out Remington’s response to CNBC’s program: http://www.remington700.tv
Hope this helps clear up some confusion.
Best,
Jose

This all sounds like the safety issues with the 909’s…..the solution be smarter than the gun…if you can’t do that then you don’t need to ever own a firearm or airgun for that matter..but that’s just my .02 ……Greg

saw just send it to me ill take care of it for ya
we dont want anyone gettin hurt in cali with that thing
ill cut her up and dispose of it
ill even pay shipping to me

A new trigger with a different mechanism than remington’s will definitely fix the problem. The entire problem lies in the trigger box, so changing it out solves everything. Plus a jewell or other fine trigger is simply awesome, so it’s a win-win. 😀

No, it won’t load itself. But imagine walking around hunting with it. Round loaded, safety on. You see a deer, and slowly turn the safety off, and kaboom, it shoots the tree next to you.

Even if it doesn’t hurt anyone. If a rifle shoots when the safety is turned off it is not just dangerous, it is useless. You can’t do any kind of field work with that.

But again, chances are it won’t ever be a problem.

And also, I still don’t know what the real prob prob is with the gun
What exactly is the issue?
What, it fires when it wants to ???
If the gun is sitting around with out a round it can load itself ?
Ya know what, BS if you ask me

SAW

So, I put a Jewel trig in and prob solved??

SAW

It’s not BS, not completely at least. On the show they actually talked to the man who designed the rifle. He said he knew there was a flaw in the trigger design, and he told remington about it, but they didn’t do anything to fix it.

It is true that if you don’t point the rifle at anything you don’t want to shoot you are being much safer. But my 700 was a 300 ultra mag. If that rifle acidentally shot, even if I wasn’t pointed directly at anyone, it could still do damage. If it was pointed up at all, it could go a long way and still do damage when it hit. If it was pointed at the ground, it could ricochet, or simply hurt someone from the spray of stuff that would come off the ground when 4500fpe hit it.

Point is, even being as safe as possible, it could still be very bad. Which is why remington really should fix their triggers and not just include a manual that tells you safeties aren’t 100% reliable.

It is being blown out of proportion. But even so, it is a problem that should be fixed.

Did I say bullshit ????
🙄

SAW

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