100 yards, Battle of the Bullpups Edgun -vs- Cricket
I was traveling today and knew I might just have enough time to drop by a 100 yard indoor range built into my schedule so here is how it went down. Since I normally shoot indoor at work on the weekends all by myself I did not have any hearing protection with me in my bag but I got lucky and was the only one at first and I got in a whopping 15 minutes on the range before a guy showed up wanting to blast away with his Ar15.
Let me qualify a bit of how this session went down before you judge the results as this is a serious case of the shooter and station influencing the outcome. When I got my range bag unpacked and my front rest in place, I set the gun up and realized they had swapped to some kind of dorky 12″ tall wood stools since I had been there and I could not come close to getting a cheek weld. I ended up setting my front rest aside and propping the gun on both of my soft bags under the forearm and shouldering the butt stock. No it doesn’t stop there, I also had to kick my right ankle under me and sit on top of it with only my left foot on the floor. 👿 .
I knew there was another guy coming as he said he was gonna browse in the shop a bit before he came down, so I hurried like crazy and shot a few rounds with with holdover for some quick practice/reference and it just didn’t feel or look good so I changed my plan and threw 52 clicks up in the cricket, it was close so I added 4 more rounds and shot that group. The edgun was shooting a bit low and right yesterday at 80 yards so it got 54 clicks up and then another 5 up and 5 left to get close and I shot that group. Thats it done, thanks to the guy waiting on me as I shot the last 5 shots from the Edgun. I packed my stuff in about 2 minutes and was outta there. I know everybody makes excuses but since people will compare the guns from this to a small degree I thought it worth saying how it went down so poorly over all. I could see my cross hairs weaving and bopping on both guns but done the best I could at the time. UGGG it was painful. I cannot wait to do this again under better circumstances as both guns have so much more to offer. I think both can do 1″ now with a proper rest and hold. The cricket faired a bit better but to be fair I could get a couple of fingers under the butstock and was more stable in micro adjusting. The Edgun I had to wrap my palm around it’s butstock due the the longer hangdown and it was real akward. I still think in my gut that both guns shoot the same !!! Sorry so sloppy but just real rushed and ill prepared.
I think it curious the cricket shot vertical and the Edgun horizontal. I would have expected the opposite, The Cricket was tuned by Ernest 300 or so rounds ago so I is likely close on the shot spread and the Edgun still needs chronyed from the HST adjusted with locknut swap out and guess at setting it back !! I can find no logic ??? other than the two different holds as the guns were shot.
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Give yourself some credit man! Good shooting. I know many,many guys who can´t do that at half the distance. I don´t think the deviation in hight is caused by variation in speed but due the muzzle-flip, as you already pointed out. :4:
I rarely actually shoot out past 50 yards unless testing and every gun I have will leave pellets all but touching at 50 so it is just for fun, although today was not fun and on top of everything my minimum range fee was 27 bucks.
Humm, now I wanna do a 50 yard with them but i’ll move it outside in the driveway as were gonna have a decent day this week I think !!
I also need to pit my Std. Edgun 22 against the little Short. version 22.
For 100 yds, that’s great, especially with the distractions.
bottom line… you’re still within “minute of squirrel”.
Crap, the old “gotta get my shots off before my foot has gone to sleep…crap, it’s gone to sleep” syndrome. This effect on accuracy has been compared to the “I’m sitting on a 5 gallon bucket and both legs are going numb” handicap.
Staple a starling up for a target and your woes will fade.
That’s really funny. I find myself putting my left hand on the scope using the Deadpod pesting. It really helps steady the little BPs.
That is interesting and I will not forget to help stabilize the muzzle rise better next time.
Great shot Ride, I only tested that compact for accuracy and stock shroud clipping at 30Y–at that range 8 shot in a 7.5mm hole. for a short 24.5″ BP I was impress. That little guy has some kick, got my best group resting my weight of my left wrist/arm on top of the scope.
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LarryW 😎
Man, I am studying right now, It is a struggle, I am going to bust out on the weight restriction and start over, I want big zoom, side focus, good glass I.R. , and them weight but it is getting to be last on my list. Perfect does not exist at any price.
I have put one of the big Hawkes on it for now and being happy for now. I am really used to these and chairgun so it may stay. Thinking more about my Bench gun’s optics and looking at the Sightron SIII synopsis is suggesting, great feature set for all kinds of applications.
Ride your way to critical of your shooting skills, leave that to others. Really, 100yds not bad. Did you decide on some glass for your compact?
Regards
LarryW 😎
Nice. 😉
Wow, still great groups given the circumstances!!!!! Can’t wait to see the repeat of this post when you’re not rushed.
Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Guy Z.
Hey man those are still very good groups under the circumsrances :biggrinn: nice job!
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I got some chrony time on the cricket at lunch today, it is running out at about 871 to 875 over 20 shot string.
I just ran 20 rounds through the Edgun Short for comparison and it is running out at 905 to 922. It is the one I swapped out the HST adjuster for the one with the locking jam nut style and have never really chronyed it back in, Cringe when you read this but, it got a By Ear !! setup that day :biggrinn: , other than that it’s out of the box new. Back then it was doing 895-900 so I am wondering about it, all I done was polished the spring and the I.D. of the new adjuster and added some moly to both when I installed it and now I am getting these higher #’s It must have been low on HST -vs- the Reg setting and out of harmony before, but the chrony string did not seem to show that so It needs a little tuning. I am tempted to take it down to the Crickets tune up of 870-875 range. and do this 100 or more test all over again under better conditions !!