14 shots in 8 seconds with the Colibri .22
wish I was shooting something alive!
14 shots through the crony with 18.1g: http://youtu.be/IqmtbjvJ2mE
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Please dont get me wrong, my words were not a review just a few observations and my opinion on what this bullpup has become.. I would have to get one in my hands to tell you what I really thought of it. Cosmetically alone I now find it as attractive as the last girl on the dance floor at the bars closing time. šÆ
Im gutted this mass produced export PCP no longer resembles the true Russian Colbri yet the price still reflects that of a quality bullpup.
I really thought they were onto a winner when I first saw this thing a few years ago but like all things Kalibrgunn have productionised, (Hooligun to the Cricket) the released item is a big disappointment that I sadly no longer have any desire to own..[/quote]
Wow Wingman I didn’t know you would get offended with my post on how fast the action advance the pellet down my crony and bucket of rubber mulch—that’s all, it was noting more.
I wish you live one hour drive from me then I’ll take you challenge—-> whats state you from??? š
Even though I have edguns and crickets its not as fast to aim then the colibri, with them you always take your eye off the target or remove your trigger finger when cocking. how many rounds have you shoot the colibri???? to determine that you can shoot faster with a rear cocker????
I think your just a mad BOY that Santa didn’t make the Colibri you where dreaming about.
I’ts ALL good Right!?
btw, GKU, by any standard, that Revo of yours is a top shooter (as are you), imo. Just a bit long for my needs or else I’d jump on the one now on the Yellow classifieds.
darryl
Yes, I do prefer a shorter PB over a long standard rifle now days. That is why I put in on the pre-order, I wanted to upgrade to the true semi-auto Colibri BP, but …………. ………. .. .. ?
~ GKU, in time we will all see how the bird evolves over time. I’m hoping but not holding my breath again that it will not be or become a dead bird unlike the Revo which till today still sells ?
I have read all Wingman’s review in the past. This is one of the harshest one. I m not an expertise in air rifle design or being in the hobby as long as everybody else. But I can assure you that hummingbird is light, QUIET very quiet, and portable. These re criteria for my dream air rifle. Those additional venting on Ernest is not needed. I cant believe how quiet his hummingbird is now. Before you ask, yes I did get my rifle yesterday and shot it. More insight and review this coming Monday.
what did I do to my life?!!!! šÆ šÆ did I choose badly? :confusedn: awww…Wingman, I need an umbrella now. It’s raining all over my parade! Can’t deny the excellent perspective you bring. Plastic? No second-stage trigger adjustment? Well crap, and slip in it! I’m a tweaker, and haven’t aseen anything insurmountable in the design but as you say, with the cost factor…It’s disturbing to read your post. Well, in for a penny; in for a pound! :biggrinn:
btw, GKU, by any standard, that Revo of yours is a top shooter (as are you), imo. Just a bit long for my needs or else I’d jump on the one now on the Yellow classifieds.
darryl
darryl
My FX Revo with ST barrel had no problems for over 4 years now. Clean the barrel once and I did over 30,000 shots and itās still giving me sub Ā½ā groups with JSB 16g / 945 fps / 50 yards. May be Iām lucked out and got a good one ! I made some unbelievable shots with it. Quick two shot pulse timed the holdover crossing on two adjacent birds on a wire at 40 yards, āpissitā, āpissitā both dead.
Kind of remains me of my old Crosman days when one needed to be lucky to get a good one.
Hope you get a good one also !
~ GKU
As much as hate to say it I have to agree with Ville on this one… I call BS.
Without even holding or stripping this gun for myself I can spot flaws that need to be mentioned and addressed. Sure many of them can be tweaked by the owner or a tuner such as Earnest but this is a “high end” pup that should be so much better from the factory for the money asked.
Where do I even start on this one?
The trigger… WTF? no second stage adjustment? on a high end PCP that’s unacceptable. Sure you can polish the sear till its within a nats whisker of safe limits but I see that going bad for anyone without some sort of engineering skills..
A second note on the trigger, I see Kalibrgun have used PLASTIC ball joints in several places on the trigger linkage… What the hell guys? anyone who has any experience with these plastic joints in R/C models knows that they have a very short life.. You can buy stainless steel ones the same for about a buck more.. why plastic?
Its quiet huh? if its so quiet then why drill a row of vent holes halfway down the length of the suppressor?
That to me is sacrilege.. I cringe seeing holes drilled in suppressors.. a well designed suppressor doesn’t need any external venting other than the business hole in the muzzle.. even the factory vent holes are blasting air right where your fore grip hand sits..
The cocking handle: now it seems kalibrguns first designs are always better then someone trying to cut costs for all I can work out goes and muffs it all up.. the coking handles on the first Colibri’s were longer and had a ball end on them, what’s with the new short round pin design?
The Weaver rail: inherently a bad design… Like an AR15 it is too much of a flat top which now requires big dorky looking high rings to get your scope hight to cheek weld positioning right. Buying riser mounts and one piece ring sets designed for the likes of an AR15 is just added weight and yet another un-necessary additional cost for the customer.
I see they have raised it up about 10mm on the one you have but still not as good as the separate Weaver rail it was first released with which also extended forward giving more range for optics mounting.
The over all length and the stock: WTF happened? It was a gorgeous short little what I would call “a real bullpup” and now it much longer and the new stock looks terrible!
Is that stock you have what it looks like? Beech? on a high end pricey PCP? without even taking a close look myself I can spot some very average finish quality… like the counter sink cuts on the sides.. did they hire a beaver to chew yours out?
Take a look at what this rife used to sport when it was first released, a stunning little shapely WALNUT stock with cut outs in all the right places, not the lack of the mag cut out on the L/H side as it had a nicer mag and the absence of the butt ugly countersunk cap screws in the sides of the pistol grip for mounting the stock.. this one had a nicely hidden long bolt through the underside of the grip.
here’s another look at beauty and the beast side by side.. the early one has nice petite shapely walnut and the new one with its classes shaped routered indent looks like it had a block of wood dropped on it leaving a dent and resembles a shapeless row boat oar!
Now last but not least, it bothers me that you advertise this as being a fast action.. lets not forget this was meant to be a semi auto… and that it the true intent behind that forward cocking lever.. that aside, I would be as bold to say that any rear cocking bullpup such as the Cricket or the Edgun R3M
is just as fast as the Colibri when using it “effectively” and by that I mean proper aimed shots. I would challenge anyone one to a high speed grouping contest of the bench with a cricket or a R3M verses this Colbri because the fact of the matter is you sill have to aim, not just work the action, spray and pray..
Well that’s my thoughts… Im sure this half assed attempt at a semi auto will still appeal to some but for me I am a truly disappointed Wingman.
I will leave you with some more early Colbri porn to remind you all just how good it was and still could have been.
I lusted the Revo for a short while. Supposedly very accurate. Right now I want something (quite) a bit more compact. Even the Revo isn’t immune from issues, as recently posted on the Yellow. Some have problems with them. Some don’t. Like most airguns sold regardless of cost. For isntance, I know of one guy who bought an FX Bobcat .30. It’s perfectly accurate, and he’s had no issues. Among the other four guys I know, One campaigned to have his barrel replaced due to accuracy issues. Another swears he was sent a used one sold as new because the scope rail was heavily marred. That’s 40% complaints among that small sampling. Still, I’d chose a Revo over the Bobcat. It’s just a neat looking rifle with it’s own sort of quirky issues, like the Hummingbird. My Bird is on order through TGAG. I hope I get a good one! :whistle:
darryl
looking through the internal designed no way–it can’t be converted to Semi-Auto. 
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I’m glade I didn’t sell my FX Revo 22 cal http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/GKU1/HP-HPE/AirGuns/P3130697_zpsa7282e5b.jpg
I was wondering way yours didn’t slide forward by itself. I guess it’s another part that was intended for the semi ?
I do like the external reg on the bird, vary nice !
~ GKU
This was back in March, and the talk was of a semi-auto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGOrexhH78c One point of interest for me is the presenter saying the Bird is primarily for hunting small game. I consider it for primarily for pest removal, since that, and general plinking is how I’d use it. Short ranges of course. Good that Ernest could whack pigeons at 60 yards. Would be great if someone could head-shoot one at that distance, simply because it might imply that it could be done at 30 yards. All the better. I wanted a Cricket Compact, which is shorter, but I like that this Bird is something different, and quiet and more than enough power for my needs. Vive la difference! I’ll know it every time I pick it up. As for it not being a semi-auto. OK by me. With the Compact out of production, I see the price has gone up beyond the Bird. I’ve bought the first model year of some cars. We all know how fraught with issues that can be. I’ve been lucky in my selection so far. I hope the Bird comes across in similar fashion. So far issues seem to be of improper adjustment, not equipment failure. That remains to be seen, but it’s been said the internals are quality-made parts. Fingers crossed (again).
Darryl
You know i like you and have a GREAT respect for your knowledge in tuning these buggers but i still question the fact that these weren’t meant as ” normal” airguns and thus i find your advertising pretty strange – giving the thought these damned Hummers cost as much as they do and still not being what they were advertized as from the get-go : semi-auto.
A try to make them “almost as ” it feels like.
As you know or you don’t the original blue print for this BP is what it is now–forward bolt cocking 14 shot mag fed. —> some smart ass wanted to turn it as a Semi-auto!
Took that semi auto add on spring return assembly off in the shroud , didn’t need that extra weight on, work even smoother to cock and you can leave it open and load the mag one handed, plus it got quieter–more air space with unnecessary shit in there. I want to shake the man that made the original designed and shot the guy wanted to convert it to Semi-Auto—Because he left a lot of UN finish product and have to off load it to mislead Air gunners.
looking through the internal designed no way–it can’t be converted to Semi-Auto.
IMHO:
Itās a less then what it was intended to be a true semi-auto, in this case a true failure.
When I per-ordered the Calibri it was in the intentions of it being a true semi- auto. When it was confirmed that KalibrGun opted out on the design I cancelled my per-order and when with a surer thing a Cricket compact .177 cal. So far being just a couple days old, I love this Gun at only 24.5ā long with no flaws and or issues to resolve. During the cancellation process I could not help myself in thinking that, itās like getting something inferior, less of being intended to become something that could not be. Because of that itās sold as something that was design to become something that it could not become. So in turn itās sold for a lesser price for not being ?
Now with the GREAT Ernest Rowe working out the issue(s) with no doubt often appears within an R1. Iām sure he has already thought of placing a pump seal on the end of the back draft re-cocking mechanism with a re-bound spring. Figures out and tries what KalibrGun was unsuccessful in achieving.
It would seem it will need to be a fixed velocity gun with no variable speed option for this to become a true semi-auto. To have a quiet gun with a fixed back drift is a difficult challenge. I think KalibrGun bit off more than they could chew and shouldnāt have made the info leach out.
~ GKU
Of course people have opinions. Especially when they pay great money for a Toy. I call the whole concept BS – very Ed- like BS.
You know i like you and have a GREAT respect for your knowledge in tuning these buggers but i still question the fact that these weren’t meant as ” normal” airguns and thus i find your advertising pretty strange – giving the thought these damned Hummers cost as much as they do and still not being what they were advertized as from the get-go : semi-auto.
A try to make them “almost as ” it feels like.
Anything that is man made has some kind of flaws—-even though everybody has there own opinions!
The cocking handle/lever need to be upgraded —- have John making a larger OD brass or bronze handle for easier cocking enjoyment!, after long testing will see what other parts need upgrading.
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Perhaps Ernest can comment on the trigger, a bit more. Is the plastic linkage really plastic? Is it in a piece that will eventually cause an unsafe condition?
BTW, the price of the HB is less than that of a Cricket Compact. Maybe it’s more of a fair price than we suspect, given Ernest’s appraisal of it’s internals, it’s slim profile and it’s ease of cocking from that side position. No double loading too. I had an Logun S16 and double-loading that bolt-action side-cocker was too easy to do if not paying attention. It would jam if double-loaded. I never jammed mine, but I was always conscious of that aspect of ownership. People who buy the HB will learn it’s quirks, and keep going, I suspect.
Stil lwaiting on somebody to show some groups. Peter was reporting what amounted to sub-MOA groups from a full magazine at 30 yards. That is hopeful, in my view.
darryl