.22 verses .25 for accuracy

Yup, agrre 100% with Harry. these bigger springs and hammers do create noticeable recoil which I think does make them harder to shoot. Worst is trying to shoot off a bipod on a hard surface. Thing jumps all over the place 😆 I found putting more weight up the front helps with controlling the muzzle( mine seems to want to flip up and to the left if given its head)

That’s not hard to figure out but I ‘m sure someone must have a stock setup .25.

Most .22 Condors should get high 900’s with 28.4gr EunJins or 60+fpe. The 31gr Kodiak should be 20-25fps slower so say 950+. The 32gr .22 SamYang I shot were about 30fps slower than 28.4. There won’t be much of a difference in FPE with the 31gr Kodiak. About 1-2fpe more than 28.4 EunJin. Unless you shoot the heavy 43gr ones, but that’s still a decent amount of power, low-mid 60’s fpe. I think it’s a good way to start, and then upgrade to a heavier hammer & spring a little later after you get good with the gun. If accuracy drops, go back to the stock setup.
That’s what I would do, but I bought used tuned .25’s so I couldn’t tell you for sure the difference between stock and modifed, but something tells me a stock Condor would be a little more accurate. It only makes sense that with more power (ie: heavier hammer & spring, NOT through valve work), you sacrifice a little bit of accuracy. Having said that, I think polishing the valve or doing other valve work to get more power, is probably the way to go for best accuracy.

I don’t know.. My almost stock .22 Airhog Condor outshoots both my .25’s. Now although 1 of my .25’s has an “advanced tune” from Talon Tunes (and the other tuned by Lemak), I don’t think the barrel was ever worked by Tony. It ‘s a LW .25 barrel that Airhog installed with their shroud. It is crowned and chocked. My Lemak .25 does not shoot as well as the .22 either, but both .25’s so favor the Kodiak pellets over any other.
The difference at 35yds is not huge between the .22 Condor and the .25’s, but it’s noticeable. My .22 Airhog Condor usually gets 1 ragged hole and sometimes you can’t tell 3 pellets or more went into the same hole. The .25’s get about 1/3″ CTC groups and once in a while if I ‘m lucky a big ragged hole but that’s rare and I really have to work on it. I think if I send my .25 barrels to Walt they may do better 🙂

Now this accuracy difference may have to do with the heavier hammers & springs that both .25’s have. The Lemak has a 78gr Lemak hammer & heavier spring, and the TT has an 85gram hammer (or 90gram – gotta look it up, I forgot!) and TT spring. The .25’s have a kick to them where the Airhog .22 has a very slight recoil, almost unoticeable, but then again the 25’s have a lot more power. It could be I have not found the right hold, not sure.. but they are not supposed to be Springers.. I noticed that if I hold the .25’s tigher, they shoot a little better. I do know it’s a breeze to shoot 1 holers with the .22, but much harder with the .25’s (@30-35yds). I have not shot the .25’s @ 50yds. Only 25, 30 & 35yds, but the .22 yielded 0.5″ groups at 50yds last time I tested it at that range. Also my .25’s slightly change POI every 8-10 shots or so which really bugs me. The .22 usually holds the same POI for about 20 shots (at 35yds) and then the changes are very small and gradual.

If I recall about a year ago, there was a similar post and most people said their .22 was more accurate than .25. I think if you installed a “good” (well machined) .25cal barrel in the same gun/Condor that you use as your .22, the accuracy would be very similar with Kodiaks or maybe even better than the .22, especially at long ranges.

I believe modding your Condor with a much heavier hammer & spring is what affects accuracy. This may result in everything not being balanced properly.. and it does result in greater recoild. Or it so much power that the aluminum frame flexes just a little to affect accuracy. Not sure, but one of these days I ‘m going to throw a stock hammer & spring in them to see if accuracy improves.

Those groups look pretty good to me! And with only 1500psi, wow, that gun has a pretty good range of psi that it will work at. I’m certain that you were shooting at lower velocity than I would recommend for these slugs but given your results, I may not know what I should recommend!

And last but Not Least. Jerry’s Slugs in the 6 ring version..

Again. The first group is before scope adjustment. The second after..

As expected, they are a bit lower. I have no doubt that accuracy will improve with a decent charge of air. This is just too slow for them.

Also, I have noticed, when shooting different pellets one type right after another, accuracy is never the best. Different alloys I guess. I notice this often when switching from say JSB’s to Kodiaks in the .22 Bbl.

So these groups will no doubt improve with better conditions, More Air, and shooting the bbl. in with a given pellet.

So far. So Good!!!

Thanks a Million Walt!!

I will post more results and Chrono readings when I can on Jerry’s’ slug’s.

I’m looking forward to it!

Mike

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The Range! WooHoo! My very own range!!! 😀
Not much now, but it is getting there. A lot more to do!

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The buisness end of Walts work! 😀 Oop’s, I forgot to wipe it down after shooting! But she is crowned beautifully! <a href="” target=”_blank”>

The Set-up.

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