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Brother. ..let me explain it to you. ..
Strelok has more accuracy and you need to put more details in order to provide you better results …. but chairgun dose not… the paid version strelok is far far better than chairgun….. believe that. ..now is cheaper i think it is about $11 …i bought for $14 ….11 or 14 dollars is nothing for such great app…
Regarding the Edgun version. … it depends on you again. … if you are a big guy like my dear uncle :hoot: ….then go to the long version. … if you use pump again go for long version. …because long will gives more shots per fill….
If you are a medium size guy…then go for the STD …especially if you have a tank…or if you go for long hunting trip or if you hunt inside the car …then only go for STD or short version. …
Now…i use only my STD version however im a long guy… but using the long version inside a car is not comfortable. …
I even ordered a STD .25 CAL and a short version. 22 cal Edgun …i will no longer go with long versions. ..i will sell my two long matadors. ..
Thanks…hope i could provide small help
HEMN .M
That’s a great reply.
I will take a look at the app. The hawke Chairgun app is quite good. It says the best zero for the .25 at 940fps is 47 yards.
I do like to stalk rabbits so getting within 47 yards is do able.
What is the farthest that you would take a shot at?
My only other decision is on what size to go for. Standard or long.
you can use both calibers for hunting with the desired power for your hunting stile, it depends on the game you have,,,if you are going to hunt small birds and the likes ,,,then .22 cal is good,,, and you don’t need high power,,then you will get more shots and cheaper ammo ,,, less pumping or refilling tanks (if you have tanks) ,,,if you are going to hunt big birds like pheasants and the likes or rabbits ….. then the best cal is .25 cal with at least 900 FPS for 25.39gr JSB (higher is better for wind resist and take down the the animals directly),,, try to use the lower power scope magnification in order to get the falter trajectory .. if you zero your scope under 40 meters ,,,
regarding the apps,,, the Strelok is the best ” but the paid version not free one” you can try and search for the best reticle and find the best magnification in order to find out the best flat trajectory … later i found in the strelok,,, if i install (Delta Optical Titanium 3-24×56 ED) and using the 4X magnification with with my current scope zero, scopes mount and gun power i get the falter line trajectory from 15 meters up to 45 meters ,,,which this range is the major hunting ranges that you will may see the birds and animals … for above 45 meters there are a huge holdover points up to 232 mtrs my edgun velocity is 930 FPS my scope height is 6cm
and the .25cal has less wind affect … then .22 and .177
and…if you want a serious hunting PCP ,,,then without any hesitation go for .30 cal
Yes, Strelok pro with the right info is really good. Also I think it sounds like the .25 is theway to go for you
+1 on the Strelok ballistic calculator.
I have just been doing the Chairgun.
On the info Ed gave me which is
It is normal for this caliber 45 Joles. 290 m/sec with JSB heavy
1.18 gram.
In .25 long about 75 Joles, 290 m/sec with JSB King, 1.645 grams.
I have out the figures in Chairgun and the .25 with the more power is flatter than the .22
I think I will stick to the .25 long.
I go to the club every Monday to target shoot. The range is 100 yards long.
I have 300 acres. Lots of wide open spaces. So long range shots are on the cards. There’s a it of all sorts on there. Mainly rabbits. Squirrels. I hope to try more for pigeon this year.
For 100 yard shooting the .25 is superior. As Keyser stated above the .25 has better BC plus the .25 bucks the wind better.
It’s not for backyard.
I go to the club every Monday to target shoot. The range is 100 yards long.
I have 300 acres. Lots of wide open spaces. So long range shots are on the cards. There’s a it of all sorts on there. Mainly rabbits. Squirrels. I hope to try more for pigeon this year.
If you’re window shopping and the thought of owning a .25 crossed your mind, chances are you won’t be satisfied with anything less than the .25. Besides, you already have the .177, unless you plan on owning all 3 calibers, you’re better off just getting the .25. It ain’t backyard friendly but if you backyard is big enough, you’ll more satisfied with the .25.
The .25 does not have a more “loopy” trajectory. The trajectory is based on the pellet speed. The .25 has a better BC and it is superior compared to the .22 for long range shooting.
Choosing the .25 vs .22 is a discussion that always comes up here and the simple answer is can be found answering the question of what you plan to do with the gun. There is no way anyone can answer this post for you without you writing more than you presented in your OP.
play around a bit in Charigun or similar program, I have never owned a .25 but people say it has a loopy trajectory due to the Heavy pellets, that is not to say it is useless. There are a lot of people here with .25 that can help you. Like I said, my highly personal opinion and not necessarily true
How loopy is the .25? In comparison to the .22? I thought with the extra FTP of the .25 would make them similar?
I have the .177 Matador shooting sub 12ftp. Look the gun.
Cost of pellets I am not bothered about.
It’s a lot of money to spend and be unsure. I don’t want to wish I bought the other calibre.
I have already changed my mind and opted for the long version over the standard. I think I may end up doing more prone shooting at range. (Upto 70-100 yards)
.22 has cheaper ammo and .25 has a loopy trajectory. .25 has more knockdown Power but uses a lot more air. My personal opinion is that .177 is the superior target shooting caliber out to 50m .22 is the superior allround caliber. .25 Is the superior hunting caliber.
But that is just my highly personal opinion
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As for hunting, either .22 or 25. If windy conditions are more likely then the .25 would be a better choice or if shooting at longer distances. I grab for my .22 more often than the .25. The .22 will TAKE any feather out to 100 + yards easily and don’t need extra power for this job, but as noted, longer distance and or windy conditions .25 would be better choice. I take turkey out to 100 + yards easily, just have to place shot correctly (strictly head or neck shots). Rabbit are not tough animals to kill and .22 will do the job humanly but again its proper pellet placement.
I agree with Hemn, go with the STD length with either caliber. As noted, I tend to reach for the .22 std eddy much more often the my .25 long eddy, mainly due to the compact size of the std – much preferred. If I had to do again I would purchase the .25 in std form. The long however will give more shots if that is of interest and perhaps balance better if a person of larger stature.
Frankly, can’t go wrong with either caliber. Just opinion and personal experience, for what little its worth!
Cheers