A Serious Question About Springers/Pneumatic Pump Air Rifles
What is the best quality springer/pneumatic break action rifle on the market now.
I am not interested in the high dollar field trial rifles, rather something in .22 or .25 caliber and known for accuracy and power.
Is it still Beeman/HW? Or is there a contender out there to match or exceed their performance?
The best springer I ever owned was an HW 55 back in 1975, and it was a genuine fine piece of equipment. No safety, but it had a barrel latch, the milling and machine work was flawless, and the wood beautiful. It must have weighed 11 lbs, but I loved it. I just didn’t know what I had at that time, so I traded it in on a firearm a few years later.
Kind of thinking of picking one up so I can still shoot when I don’t have access to compressed air.
Regards,
Kindly ‘Ol Uncle H 😯 😯 T
PS: Any closet queens out there, alone, wasted, unused, in new condition?
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I also have a 34 in .177 and take out grasshoppers @ about 30yds.
Haven’t heard the name “mud dauber” in years,
Sam 😎
Uhhhh…well…I was actually talking about the little birds that would build mud nests on the side of the house…they’d sit on the TV antena and poop all over my dad’s patrol unit so I’d shoot them in the head from across the yard…it was amazing to watch their heads explode and their bodies go flying backwards about 10′ when hit! Wasps would have certainly been much more challenging, but we didn’t have any of those up in North Idaho, where I grew up.
I think we called em dirt daubers too…
My rws 48 was a fine shooter. Self tuned with a vortek kit and no compressing device 😉 dont reccomend doing with out one but i did and let me say that 48 in .22 cal at 24 fpe would stack them up pretty easy!
Rob:
wait until you dig into a 75’…think 300 to the 4th power 😆 😆 😆
agree you can get it done without the compressor, just easier with than without
another great often overlooked and under valued sporter is the FWB 300 Sporter model
only available in .177 but they are a fine rifle and capable of the same performance as the match models in a far lighter weight without the cumbersome target model stocks
I find it curious that despite their rather low production the sporter 300 usually sells for a great deal less than the S or Universal models
Though I wouldnt recommend it, I have replaced mainsprings in everything from my R7 up to a Kodiak without a spring compressor… it ‘can’ be done.
A large wood clamp can also be used on these… believe it or not, there was very little compression on the R1 and it was one of the easier ones to work on. But yes… if you are going to be doing several guns, a spring compressor is a great thing and easy to build. Some years ago, B-Square made one and lots of folks griped because they could make their own…but when B-Square stopped making them, those same folks bitched because they couldnt get them any more… haha
The FWB300 scared me for a long time, but I finally tore into mine a few years back and it wasnt as bad as I would have though. A bit more involved than a regular springer….but doable.
Rob:
Yeah rebuilds are easy for those so inclined
the biggest bitch is building up some sort of spring vice
only ones that get a bit crazy are recoiless guns like the FWB 300s or worse yet, the Styer 75.
Riff:
gotta agree if you have been exposed to a 124 first the 127 kina pales in comparison
with the 124, FWB got nearly everything right
.22 does stretch the capabilities of that 124 action quite a bit past what it was designed to do in my opinion
I also have a 34 in .177 and take out grasshoppers @ about 30yds.
Haven’t heard the name “mud dauber” in years, grew up around Tobacco barns, that required ‘mud daubing’ every year and the ‘mud dauber wasp’ was allways around building it’s mud hut nest. The neatest of them being the Potter wasp, which builds a mud jug for it’s nest. Most people today call them ‘dirt daubers’, good to hear the original name again.
Potter/mud dauber Wasp
Sam 😎
with a rebuild and a tune 127s can be a great deal better than stock
Well aware of that bro. Both were tuned and the results were impressive enough to have my own 124 tuned. Breathed new life into the old girl.
I just didn’t like the way the 127 performed in comparison, but possibly my opinion was biased because I know what my 124 was capable of.
My 124 shoots exacts and CP like a dream, and used to really shoot the old Silver Jets really well back in the day.
Oh Yeah, $40.00 bucks at a gun show
😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛
Thought I was over spending at the time 😳 😳
SAW
Funny you guys brought this up 🙄 🙄 🙄
about 20 years ago I bought a BSA Supersport 22 cal break barrel
My first real air gun, that bitch has put the mark on more crows than
any other lead spitter that I own
If I recall, prob around 775fps, iron sights
I will never get rid of her
SAW
Did someone call my name….? 😀
.22 Springer… understand that with power in a springer comes weight and recoil.
If you learn to shoot one, a springer can be deadly accurate… but true, they are not for everyone. They are a challenge.
The HW97 is a good choice for a medium powered springer, but mine is terribly pellet picky.. but with the right pellets, can stack them out to 50 yards.
TX200… hmm.. I have one in .177 and one in .22. I can hit anything anytime with the .177… I cannot say that for the .22 and I dont know why.
Patriot/Kodiak… magnum powered springer… scope killer… but can be very accurate, hard to shoot well though.
RS mentioned the R1… ding, ding, ding… we have a wiener…! R1 Carbine in .22 is tops. My only disagreement with RS is sending it out for a tune. I have guns tuned by the best in the biz.. and I have guns tuned by… me. For the money, I will never send another springer out to be tuned. Get a Vortek or a Macarri kit and do it yourself and save a couple hundred bucks. Not hard to do at all. I’m not saying that a pro tuned gun isnt a great thing… but for my money, I dont see $200 difference in ones that I’ve tuned and ones that the pro’s have tuned.
R1…. and I do prefer the Carbine to the full sized gun…
Hawke Scope…
BKL 260 one piece mount….
……and you are set.
……..and Steve… no ill will, brother! We all have our opinions and mine is no more valuable than yours!
Riff
with a rebuild and a tune 127s can be a great deal better than stock
The only springer Ive ever owned is a FWB124. Sweet, sweet rifle when tuned right.
Riversides choice of FWB127 seemed underpowered when I shot it side by side with the 124. The 124 is of course .177 and the 127 is .22.
I had my hands on a AA Pro Sport in .22 cal, and I really like that rifle.
It was much easier to shoot than the FWBs.
Before I could return with the cash to buy it, the guy changed his mind about selling.
I found he later sold the rifle too, asshat. grr.
I just found this in my e-mail:
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Many years ago I had an RWS model 34 in .177 cal. It was a great gun, and quite accurate with a little 3-9 Burris scope on it. I could take out mud daubers with it at 40 yards with no problem.
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I have a Crosman Titan Nitro Piston and have about 10,000 rounds thru it.
It is nothing like the old springers, accurate and no maintenance.
$150.00, love this gun for fun shooting.