A word of caution
Remember, these are high pressure guns! More on this later, I have to get back to work right now.
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Anyone that’s been around long enough knows that I’ve launched barrel’s out of my frame and blown out home made breech’s…….
sorry didn’t do my math but still think something else happened
Actually, a 1/4 inch hole in a 1 inch circle is about 1/16 the area, or 6.25% if I calculated it right.
I’m with the others guessing the fluting let loose.
I really admire Tony at Talon Tunes for standing up and admitting it was his. That takes balls. At least others will now know that if they have a Tony shroud they might not want to have the kids or friends sitting alongside when they’re shooting. I hope it’s just one weak one out of many. I also hope Tony does some investigating to determine what may have gone wrong. It might have been one bad piece of tubing.
You can put an eye out with that thing!
The Alu. tubing can get way too thin when fluting. But it sure looks good! The smoothness of the cut can also have an effect. Sometimes you get a slightly rough pass when milling. Especially if a cutter gets a little dull with out you noticing it. This causes what we call stress risers. Same in the Knife making business.
Tony is the man!
I love this place more and more. More today, than before. I’m impressed at Tony’s fast actions here on the forum . 😀
Mike
Nothing personal shooterjoe, been thinking about this today while at work,
There must have been some kind of blockage to cause that kind of damage.
Either that or some kind of detonation.
Ya have a 1″ tube with a .250 hole at the end. 25%
Now if there was something plugging that hole at the end of the shroud and send another down the pike yeahh I could see that, but the blast of air alone behind the pellet ???? I just can’t imagine it.
Joe was it your first shot of the session that the damage happened ?
Were you shootin eujins, if so I know some of those are way oversized, one could have not made it all the way out with a improperly cocked breech.
I am just trying to help with this matter and have nothing against you shooterjoe.
And yes everyone out there yet another reminder to always wear saftey glasses when shooting.
let those with no fuckups cast the first stone…
THe valve was stock and brand new. I had the rifle 2 weeks when this happened. I never chronied higher settings or with the top hat set from the factory.
It does matter as this will give us a clue regarding the possible elevated pressures in that shroud.
If your gun was shooting all over the map without knowing haw many shots/blasts of air per fill, we cannot get closer to the answer.
Remember we want to know these things to prevent reoccurrence.
Walter….
It doesn’t matter at this point as I have already rebuilt my valve and messed it up. I just got the replacement parts from AF and hopefully get it done right this time. I didn’t count shots per fill and I chronied it at low PW setting with 28gr eun jin’s to adjust the top hat. There were lows in the 300’s highs in the 800’s with the average in the 600’s. This is with the top hat starting at .070. The stock setting was .098
THe valve was stock and brand new. I had the rifle 2 weeks when this happened. I never chronied higher settings or with the top hat set from the factory.
Joe, sounds good.
Tony if you measure the thinest section I could calc a burst pressure.
It would get us close to understanding the pressure in the blast.
Joe, how efficient is your gun? how many shots per fill? at what fps?
Walter….
Thank Goodness Nuglor is not here to post a picture of an Ass that has been “Blown Up”.
But then again there is always Tron 🙄
Walter, Tony has the shroud now.
Good point Yellow Ninja. I didn’t think this through before I posted it. Not only am I new to this forum, I am new to forums period. IV’e never read or posted anything like this before.
That is some CSI shit right there!!! I think figuring out why and how is a good thing for everyone.
No witch hunting here, I actually don’t care who made it from a ‘would I do business with this person’ point of view. Shit happens, stuff breaks, what the person does to remedy the situation is the real deal and as expected all was made good. I was curious and it being left out made me even more curious!!! 😀
The manufacturer can expect an order for some parts from me in the near future! 😉
Hardly a witch hunt. Guy has a problem, the maker addressed it and the problem was fixed.
I always think its silly posting a picture of something claiming its a cautionary tale but then refusing to give all the info. Like the guys who have a problem with a dealer, make a huge post but wont say who they bought it from, that doesn’t help anyone.
Were open here and that’s the way to be – We cant cherry pick based on who the mishaps involve.
I don’t see that this casts anyone in a bad light – Tony did the stand up thing and no ones knocking him, people are just naturally curious, you cant expect no one to ask who in a forum with the type of guy’s we have here.
Joe, I am thinking you are going through a pile of air ?
to blow up the shroud takes a pretty fair blast of excess air and so you may be pushing the valve pretty hard and on teh verge of a dump.
BTW could you mike the thinest section of the split which would allow a guestimate then of the burst pressure.
Cheers,
Walter…
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dang!!!one unhappy looking gun there