Airforce Hand Pump
Mine is leaking and is unusable. It’s 2 months old and has been used maybe 12 times.
I know, I know… not a new topic but I have a twist I’ve not read about before.
I contacted Airforce, they put me in touch with the manufacturer. We semi-diagnosed over email and he told what parts I need and he sent me re-build instructions. I also have in writing (email) that I will not be voiding my warranty by attempting the rebuild because (and only because) he is allowing me to attempt this myself before sending back (shipping cost) for him to attempt a rebuild. If you are in warranty I’d def go through the right channels first. If you’re out of warranty you have nothing to lose.
I’ll post more info once I attempt this. The instructions do not include pictures (but I’ll take some) and they are specific to the part he wants me to replace but he goes on to say that “you’ll now be able to rebuild the pump whenever you need to” so I imagine they fairly complete.
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I’ll try that…but do you think the h20 caused the pump to Stop pushing air through?
Hey, I might be able to help with your pump. I’ll bet you live in a humid environment. The base of your pump is full of condensation. Try pulling the air bleed screw (actually a “needle valve”) all the way out and work the pump a couple of times. Do this over a towel… It could be very messy. Once it’s drained replace the air bleed screw, tighten it, and try it out… Should be good as new.
Regards,
Rodger
[quoteBut honestly, it’s pretty much the same as the Hill instructions with fewer (no) pictures.[/quote]
Just post the instructions already. We’ll be the judge of that.
I really don’t know what broke, it just started FILLING the bottom of the adapter with brown water and stopped pumping any air at all. Kinda reaky really…..
I am so mad at them right now… 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿
What went wrong with yours?
Hey, you think two months is bad? Mine blew yesterday, the 29th day since it arrived, I called today and pyramid will not give me my money back because it says in the sales agreement : “within thirty days” …. Plus the sales person at pyramyd implied I ruined it….. 😡
Benzin – thanks for the link. The pumps are all quite similar in terms of parts (if not quality of parts) and any thing helps.
I’ve never said the AF pump was as good as or better than anything else. Shame on me (maybe) for not doing enough research. The point of this thread was to offer some hope to those who DO have the AF pump and are having issues.
My local hardware stores suck for the most part. I think I found the right o rings today so as soon as I get the workspace (garage) up to a reasonable temp (it’s barely broken into the 30’s the past 2 days and I’m a wimp) I’ll be tearing into my pump. I also have a tank on the way so my motivation has slipped a bit but I still want a pump on hand and this one will get rebuilt or replaced.
For the record, the pump worked flawlessly even if for only ~ 2 months. Not saying I’m proud of 2 months but the failure was sudden – bad o-ring? Easy fix? We’ll see. The guy I’ve been emailing says he’s sure of the fix. If it works – I’m happy and can feel good sharing his rebuild info. But honestly, it’s pretty much the same as the Hill instructions with fewer (no) pictures.
I just had a chance to see and use an AF pump, and i must say that IMHO it is a POS compared to my hill.
i tought AF pumps were made by FX (or was it logun)?? this POS looks like a chineese made “air ventury” crap.
For those happy owners of a hill pump (like myself 🙂 ) you can find all diagrams and instructions for this pumps here
The way I see it – he’s doing me a favor. I have no useable pressure in my tanks. For the price of an o ring and what looks like 30 minutes of effort I might get a working pump back. Compared to 2 more weeks without a pump on top of paying for shipping… that’s deal. And if it works it’ll benefit me and others down the road. AND I have in writting that this will not affect my warranty. I can still send it back
He also encouraged me to share the instructions – I just want to see my results first.
Well, fair enough… but I can’t get over the fact that the thing went tits-up after only twelve uses.
Of course he wants you to share the instructions to fix it yourself, it’ll allow him to keep making the malfunctioning POS and cut down on the warranty claims to boot. 🙄
I’m sure that manufacturing those pumps isn’t easy, there’s a bit of science that goes into them, but why would I drop ~$200 for one of them when I’ve got to futz with it or otherwise rebuild it every dozen uses?
/rant off…
I’ll take your experience and apply it accordingly. Thanks. 😉
Now that’s a warranty…. 😆
And you’re happy about that?
Something is wrong with that, unless you’re inclined to re-engineer a high pressure bike pump.
Absolutely.
The way I see it – he’s doing me a favor. I have no useable pressure in my tanks. For the price of an o ring and what looks like 30 minutes of effort I might get a working pump back. Compared to 2 more weeks without a pump on top of paying for shipping… that’s deal. And if it works it’ll benefit me and others down the road. AND I have in writting that this will not affect my warranty. I can still send it back
He also encouraged me to share the instructions – I just want to see my results first.
AOA has removed the link for the Hill Pump on their website. But they did not remove the pages yet!
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/BSA%20Hill%20Pump%20Page.html
Copy them and save them while they are still up!
Understood… I was looking at it from my own POV. I like tinkering with stuff, but time and money are tight these days. I’d be steaming mad if I dropped big $$ on a hand pump and it went kerflooey in only two months.
Now that’s a warranty…. 😆
And you’re happy about that?
Something is wrong with that, unless you’re inclined to re-engineer a high pressure bike pump.
I’d be over-joyed about that! As long as I could do it myself, that is the most convenient option for sure.
Just re-built my Hill Pump for the first time recently. Aside from having a hell of a time unscrewing the top of the tube (I had tightened it way to much), and trying to figure out the handle design which differed from the diagram that was once on A of A, it was simple procedure and also a rewarding experience.
Doing a re-build will give you a much greater appreciation for your pump, and it certainly gives me confidence in my equipment, knowing that I can make it work like silk so soon after it starts taking a crap. It’s just replacing an old part/o-ring with a new one.
Who wants to ship their equipment off, and be held back from further shooting for who knows how long when you can fix it yourself tonight, and go shooting/hunting tomorrow.
Just put some new silicone grease on mine today. After the rebuild and grease, the thing is so fast and easy to pump it made me laugh out loud.
As a side note, the Hill Pump, along with the rebuild diagrams are no longer listed on A of A’s site. Good thing I have them saved on my computer (anyone that needs the Hill Pump rebuild instructions PM me). Did BSA loose it’s rights to the Hill Pump?
Now A of A lists only the FX Pump, and the re-build kit icon is dead.
Two months old and you get “Fix it your damned self, here’s the instructions…”
Now that’s a warranty…. 😆
And you’re happy about that?
Something is wrong with that, unless you’re inclined to re-engineer a high pressure bike pump.
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Hi Critter,
Well, if the base is genuinely FULL of water I suppose it could block or lock up the check valve. The main check valve is a little spring loaded brass/o-ring unit screwed into the bottom of the main tube right at the top of the black base section. I imagine it would take 3 or 4 ounces to completely fill that lower unit, but without being able to examine the pump “in person” there’s no way for me to say for sure…
Did my suggestion help?
Rodger