Baby Cricket (.177) Needs A New ‘Pair Of’ Scope
And here we go. Requirements and some are conflicting. :smilen:
==>Light weight (max 20 oz. ish)
==>Moderate to High quality optics
==>Glass etched reticle
==>Plenty of elevation/windage marks
==>Moderate length (17″ max)
==>Parallax down to 10 yards (or vendor will do for a small fee)
==>Variable magnification with the Max at least 14x
==>Side Focus/Parallax (yea I know they are not the same)
==>Budget $1000 US
:fishing:
List (being updated with candidates)
1) Clearidge Ultra XP5 4.5-22.5×50, Mil Dot, Matte
http://clearidgeoptics.com/default.aspx?act=pro&opt=detail&id=844
2) LeupoldVX-3 4.5-14x50mm (30mm) Side Focus (Parallax set down by factory)
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/vx-3-riflescopes/vx-3-4-5-14x50mm-30mm-side-focus/
3) BSA Tactical Mil-Mil Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 4-14x 44mm Side Focus 1/10 Mil Adjustments First Focal MRAD Reticle Matte (heavy – same as Falcon Menace)
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456482/bsa-tactical-mil-mil-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-4-14x-44mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-first-focal-mrad-reticle-matte
4) Simmons 44 Mag 6-24×44 Side Focus MD
http://simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.cfm
5) Sightron SIIB SS 6.5-20X50 MOA (Parallax set down by factory)
http://info.sightron.com/Riflescopes/SII-Series—Big-Sky/SIIBSS652050MOA/
6) Steiner 4-20×50 GS3 30mm
http://swfa.com/Steiner-4-20×50-GS3-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P68344.aspx
7) Swarovski 3.5-18×44 Z5 (over on price)
http://swfa.com/Swarovski-35-18×44-Z5-Riflescope-P40824.aspx
8) Vortex 4-16×50 Viper HS 30mm XLR FFP (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16×50-Viper-HS-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P51721.aspx
9) Vortex 4-16×50 Viper PST 30mm EBR-1 FFP (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16×50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44561.aspx
10) Zeiss 6.5-20×50 Conquest (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Zeiss-65-20×50-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P2095.aspx
11) Zeiss 3-15×42 Conquest HD5 (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Zeiss-3-15×42-Conquest-HD5-Rifle-Scope-P60842.aspx
12) Bushnell Legend Ultra HD Mil Dot Reticle Riflescope, 4.5-14x44mm
http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/legend-ultra-hd/4-5-14x-44-mil-dot
13) Leupold 6.5-20×40 VX-3 30mm Varmint reticle (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20×40-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P12733.aspx
14) Vortex Viper HS LR 6-24×50 FFP XLR (MOA)
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/viper-hs-lr-6-24×50-ffp-with-xlr-moa-reticle/reticle
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secoda have u made a choice on what scope you’ll be getting? i need one for my baby cricket too 😆
We are so ashamed. 😆 😆 😆
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I tune CG to match the trajectory of my rifles… 
I am so used to Hawkes and chair gun that I have tuned my guns to almost shoot the same trajectory and I can use the same mildots for all guns so far, I need to start looking at the .177 to see how it works out. I am ordering another of the same Hawkes once I catch my airgun buying breath.
I see in Ted’s latest winter pigeon shoot video which I enjoyed for a change that his Vortex Viper FFP with 50 yard parallax minimum is really starting to annoy him on close shots being too blurry. He is back to saying you really need a scope that focuses down to 10 yards. 😆
Now my new scope is needing a Baby Cricket. 😯
:biggrinn: I am down to five of them buggers. Our distributor in Wisconsin is now carrying most of the MTCs and SWFA carries several. I told Brad at Hawke that those Varmints hurt Hawke a few years ago just like the Crossfires hurt Vortex. The Crossfire I’s had an 80% return rate. lol
I like the MTC line of scopes. Had a Viper 10x 44 and it worked flawlessly and had 10x better optics than the Varmint i had at the same time. A friend has a Viper 32x and his scope works very well too. You get a lot more scope for your money compared to those Hawkes i’ve had the honour to try.
Dr. Evil had a Genesis but there was something weird going on with that one so he handed it back to the seller and went for a Delta. Those Genesis’ are good scopes for the price though when everything’s right with them.
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Coda – exactly how many Leupolds is too many Leupolds ? One ?? 😉
I like the MTC line of scopes. Had a Viper 10x 44 and it worked flawlessly and had 10x better optics than the Varmint i had at the same time. A friend has a Viper 32x and his scope works very well too. You get a lot more scope for your money compared to those Hawkes i’ve had the honour to try.
Dr. Evil had a Genesis but there was something weird going on with that one so he handed it back to the seller and went for a Delta. Those Genesis’ are good scopes for the price though when everything’s right with them.
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That’s what I thought but I guy I know with a Leupy claims it looks a little funky at even 200 yards after they cranked on it. I have never looked through his scope. I would rather not go that route anyways.
Hawke is a company that was formed between some Brits marketers/investors and some Japanese engineers. The first Hawkes were all manufactured in Japan including the Hawke Frontier and Hawke Endurance (different from the Endurance that was just reintroduced). Those scopes were high-end but the pricing quickly got out of hand for the (airgun and rifle) market the Brits were targeting in the UK and Europe so they moved the manufacturing to China in 2010. Even though Hawkes are relatively new in the US they now claim a 50% market share in the UK. Optisan/MTC and Falcon are also British owned but made in China. I see reviews where some in the UK say the MTCs and Falcons are smaller companies with a more consistent product than Hawke that has grown so large. I may have to try an MTC and there is an US distributor in Wisconsin. Falcons tend to be a little heavy for my taste and most are over 32 oz. 😯 I already own too many Leupold’s.
Here is a Hawke Frontier
http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/scope-tests-bushnell-hawke-holland-leupold-1.php
Now, why does it have to have a glass etched Ret.? This does help with exotic ret’s. and high recoil rig’s. But several of the scopes you have listed do not have glass etched ret’s. This also cuts down some of light gathering a bit in lesser scopes.
I’m not so sure that Hawke started out low-balling dprices a few years ago. I’ kinda thinking they are simply over charging for a midle of the road Chinese glass. Kinda like Night eater did with their field target scope. It went up over 300. in one month. And the quality went down at the same time.
Knife
Well no, you don’t have to send it back in to get the paralex changed to focus futher out. It may not be in perfect paralex adjustment, (head placement will thake care of theat), but you can still focus. You may have to use the ocular focus for really crisp image though. And Lupy has the most archaic and worst erganomic ocular focus in the industry on a what is a high priced optic.
Now, why does it have to have a glass etched Ret.? This does help with exotic ret’s. and high recoil rig’s. But several of the scopes you have listed do not have glass etched ret’s. This also cuts down some of light gathering a bit in lesser scopes.
I’m not so sure that Hawke started out low-balling dprices a few years ago. I’ kinda thinking they are simply over charging for a midle of the road Chinese glass. Kinda like Night eater did with their field target scope. It went up over 300. in one month. And the quality went down at the same time.
Knife
Yes – there is a tradeoff. The folks I know that have done it say if they have it set to 25 yards they can focus at full magnification from about 15 yards up to about 120 yards and it is crystal clear but it gets a bit off at much further distances. If you then want to put it on a PB rifle later on or shoot cast slugs at longer distances you have to send it back to the factory. 🙁 The FT scopes can have the same issue. Its hard to beat a good Chinese scope designed from the ground up by the Brits for airguns. 😆 😆 😆
http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20×40-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P12733.aspx
FYI, when Leupold resets the parallax from the factory 50 yards down to 25 yards on the bottom end, the top end goes from infinity to just over 100 yards…….
http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20×40-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P12733.aspx
The 10-40×56 will be interesting to see how it does at the higher magnifications. Reticle is good.
Not yet, waiting on order to come in and i wanna ask a couple of comparative questions between it and hawkes
They talked about them on the Yellow for a while and they have a new plant with nice new equipment. I would be surprised if they top the Hawke/MTC/Falcon (about the same) lines at that $500 price point but they may be low dipping the price until the name gets out there. Hawke did the same thing a few years back. Be sure to get the New Trajectory reticle. So he shipped one to you?
http://www.aeonoptical.com/index.php?id=19
All of the folks in the plant looked like adults. 😆 Must be staged.
http://www.aeonoptical.com/index.php?id=361
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Me bad. It’s already sitting on my fireplace Hearth. I am with RIDE – I have gotten too used to the Hawkes and the SR Pro and 1/2MD reticles. 😀
Another SW 8-32×56 SR Pro. My 4th one of these models. I also have three SW 6.5-20×42 1/2MD Tactical’s and a 4-12×50 1/2MD Panorama on my P-Rod. I am still searching for a lighter scope but just haven’t found one with the reticle I really like that is under 18 oz. or so designed for airguns (even the $3500 S&B FT was heavy). The 50 yard parallax scopes are just not good for the pesting I do most of the time. A modified Leupold as Dr. Steele did may be the best option at the moment. As Sir Ville says, if they would just leave off the IR it would lose half a pound.