Baby Cricket (.177) Needs A New ‘Pair Of’ Scope
And here we go. Requirements and some are conflicting. :smilen:
==>Light weight (max 20 oz. ish)
==>Moderate to High quality optics
==>Glass etched reticle
==>Plenty of elevation/windage marks
==>Moderate length (17″ max)
==>Parallax down to 10 yards (or vendor will do for a small fee)
==>Variable magnification with the Max at least 14x
==>Side Focus/Parallax (yea I know they are not the same)
==>Budget $1000 US
:fishing:
List (being updated with candidates)
1) Clearidge Ultra XP5 4.5-22.5×50, Mil Dot, Matte
http://clearidgeoptics.com/default.aspx?act=pro&opt=detail&id=844
2) LeupoldVX-3 4.5-14x50mm (30mm) Side Focus (Parallax set down by factory)
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/vx-3-riflescopes/vx-3-4-5-14x50mm-30mm-side-focus/
3) BSA Tactical Mil-Mil Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 4-14x 44mm Side Focus 1/10 Mil Adjustments First Focal MRAD Reticle Matte (heavy – same as Falcon Menace)
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456482/bsa-tactical-mil-mil-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-4-14x-44mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-first-focal-mrad-reticle-matte
4) Simmons 44 Mag 6-24×44 Side Focus MD
http://simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.cfm
5) Sightron SIIB SS 6.5-20X50 MOA (Parallax set down by factory)
http://info.sightron.com/Riflescopes/SII-Series—Big-Sky/SIIBSS652050MOA/
6) Steiner 4-20×50 GS3 30mm
http://swfa.com/Steiner-4-20×50-GS3-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P68344.aspx
7) Swarovski 3.5-18×44 Z5 (over on price)
http://swfa.com/Swarovski-35-18×44-Z5-Riflescope-P40824.aspx
8) Vortex 4-16×50 Viper HS 30mm XLR FFP (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16×50-Viper-HS-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P51721.aspx
9) Vortex 4-16×50 Viper PST 30mm EBR-1 FFP (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16×50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44561.aspx
10) Zeiss 6.5-20×50 Conquest (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Zeiss-65-20×50-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P2095.aspx
11) Zeiss 3-15×42 Conquest HD5 (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Zeiss-3-15×42-Conquest-HD5-Rifle-Scope-P60842.aspx
12) Bushnell Legend Ultra HD Mil Dot Reticle Riflescope, 4.5-14x44mm
http://www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/legend-ultra-hd/4-5-14x-44-mil-dot
13) Leupold 6.5-20×40 VX-3 30mm Varmint reticle (Parallax set down by factory)
http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20×40-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P12733.aspx
14) Vortex Viper HS LR 6-24×50 FFP XLR (MOA)
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/viper-hs-lr-6-24×50-ffp-with-xlr-moa-reticle/reticle
All Replies
Yes – I keep the 32x on 24x for the best clarity and setting for the SR Pro reticle. I only use 32x if I need to see a paper hole real far away. I always tell folks that my $1500 Nightforce isn’t perfectly clear at 32x either although it is a notch above the Hawke. You really need to spend quite a bit to get what we would really like. Take a look at a March for $3000+ and you will see a noticeable improvement. Not as much in the $800-1000 scopes. I have about 35 scopes and about 15 of them are $800 or higher scopes on PBs and two are at $1500+. IMO it takes a lot of $$$ to really get great clarity at high magnifications as tested on a resolution grid (not subjective opinions). Same is true with brightness and using a light meter.
The best Sidewinders are still best bang for the buck IMO at that $500 price point. Before you buy a $1000 scope do I what I did and try them out in a variety of conditions. While there are differences you will have to decide if they are worth double the price. Most of my shooting is outside in decent light and pesting and I have ten PCPs to waste money on. 😯 If I were shooting competition FT like Syn it would be a different ball game and I would streeetch for the best optics I could afford.
It is not an issue for me as I shoot 20x 90% of the time unless bench resting and I use 24 but add good lighting and it is still great, but I want more magnification.
I notice my 6-24×56 hawkes start to cloud a bit at 20x plus unless I have good light, Is there a point you would say this occurs on the 8-32×56 version ??? do they stay clean looking with good light at 32x ??
It is not an issue for me as I shoot 20x 90% of the time unless bench resting and I use 24 but add good lighting and it is still great, but I want more magnification.
I just told Donny I may end up with another Hawke SW SR Pro 8-32×56 before this is all over again. 😆 MTS/Falcon/Hawke are all very close on the high end scopes they offer (British owned and run and made in China). Falcon offers the high mag FFPs with good reticles but they are even a bit heavier at over 30 oz. It’s hard for us to beat Hawkes local support. If you like me use high magnification constantly than SFPs probably make more sense than an FFP at high mag all of the time. I like the high-end Vortex Viper FFP for the clarity at 24x but it is $900.
I can tell you I have to give on something so it is going to be weight in my case, I want BIG zoom and side focus so that is going to cause me to get back into this deal again this evening. Secoda: I’d still like to takt to you about your 8-32 hawkes before I study further. I think my scope is going to be bigger than my gun !!!
Very lazy. 😉 I’ll add…
That said the Clearidge is a good one. It´s minuses are : Plain MD reticule and it weighs 3 oz more than you´d want it to. That takes us back to them Delta´s once again – made at the same place in Japan (LOW) but with muuuuuuch better reticle and 30x power. Weighs more though … :fishinghole:
You could always consider few extra trips to the friendly local Gym and soon those ounces won´t feel as heavy anymore.
BTW – did you got the package yet ?? It´s about due any day now.
Simmons 6-21 & 6-24 DO HAVE SF !!!!! Read on the list of feat, farther down. Lazy people here … 🙄
That said the Clearidge is a good one. It´s minuses are : Plain MD reticule and it weighs 3 oz more than you´d want it to. That takes us back to them Delta´s once again – made at the same place in Japan (LOW) but with muuuuuuch better reticle and 30x power. Weighs more though … :fishinghole:
You could always consider few extra trips to the friendly local Gym and soon those ounces won´t feel as heavy anymore.
BTW – did you got the package yet ?? It´s about due any day now.
No side focus on the Simmons which is a pain but the Clearidge optics are so good I have to toss that into the consideration list. 🙂 I will update the beginning with good candidates.
http://clearidgeoptics.com/default.aspx?act=pro&opt=detail&id=844
What´s 3 oz between friends anyway … 😉
Want to go with less stellar one:
http://www.simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.cfm
The 6-21 & 6-24 has SW PX. Those weigh nothing and i suspect the same about the quality …
Here´s my contribution since you happen to be over there:
http://clearidgeoptics.com/default.aspx?act=pro&opt=detail&id=844
What´s 3 oz between friends anyway … 😉
Want to go with less stellar one:
http://www.simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.cfm
The 6-21 & 6-24 has SW PX. Those weigh nothing and i suspect the same about the quality …
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Steve at WWAG has offered to let me try one of the AEON’s he is selling, I am thinking about a demo on that 10×40-56 , has anyone ever looked through one ?? You would think terrible for $315 but he says it does real well ?? Might be Hawke quality for 2/3 price