Benjamin Discovery
Another new entry for PCP
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/benjamin-discovery-air-rifle.shtml
Power Source: Dual Fuel
Caliber: .22 (5.5 mm) pellets
Max Velocity: Up to 900 fps (274 m/s)
Capacity: Single shot
Length: 39 in. (99 cm)
Weight: 5 lbs. 2 oz. (5.27 kg)
Material: Hardwood
Barrel Material: Rifled steel
Front Sight: Fiber optic
Rear Sight: Fully adjustable
Mechanism: Bolt action
Safety: Cross bolt
Discovery 22 with Pump
Dual Fuel Compressed Air / CO2 Air Rifle
Trouble-free, highly accurate. Once it is filled, there is no pumping and no worry about the outdoor temperature. Just shoot until the gun needs to be refilled. The Discovery’s 2000 psi fill level means almost anyone old enough to shoot this rifle will also be able to fill it from the hand pump that comes in the package.
Duel Fuel – An inexpensive CO2 adapter converts this rifle from compressed air to CO2 operation which makes it easy to fill from a standard paintball tank, offering more shots from a single fill. CO2 is excellent for indoor use or for outdoor casual plinking.
Get into precharged guns at an unheard-of price and also get the accuracy of an expensive European target rifle!
Benjamin has bridged the gap and taken the pain out of PCPPrecharged pneumatic. A gun that is filled from a separate air source. guns. Not only is this as low a price as you’ll ever find on a PCP/hand pump combo, but it’s so easy to pump up that a wispy teenager could do it!
The Discovery has raised the bar for PCPPrecharged pneumatic. A gun that is filled from a separate air source. guns because it uses only 2000 psiPounds per square inch. An expression of pressure. of air. While the European companies race toward higher and higher air pressures, Benjamin is going the opposite direction and making it easier than ever to use a hand pump. If you want to use a scubaA diver’s air tank that is used to fill a precharged airgun. tank or carbon fiber tank, you can do that, too. The Discovery gives you a choice!
The gun comes with a magnificent walnut stock made especially for it. It also has Williams fiber optic front and rear sights and a built-in air pressure gauge. Included in the package is a hand pump that’s easy to use and very clear on showing you when you’ve reached maximum operating pressure.
When you open your box, you’ll see easy-to-follow and easy-to-understand instructions that’ll lead you step-by-step. If you’re an experienced PCPPrecharged pneumatic. A gun that is filled from a separate air source. user, you’ll soon see that the Discovery is the easiest PCPPrecharged pneumatic. A gun that is filled from a separate air source. you’ve ever used. If you’re new to PCPs, you’ll become a pro in just a few short steps.
If you want to switch to CO2, that’s easy to do. There’s a special tool that lets you quickly and safely exhaust all the high-pressure air (or you can just shoot the air out). Attach the optional CO2The scientific notation for carbon dioxide. adapter (separate purchase), connect it to a paintball CO2The scientific notation for carbon dioxide. tank and fill ‘er up! Now, commence to shootin’!
With high-pressure air, you’ll get about 35 powerful shots before you need to pump up again. On CO2, you’ll get a lot more.
The Discovery is manufactured and built in the U.S.
$380 at Pyramydair with the pump ❗
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Don’t want to start an argument because we don’t know a whole lot with respect to detail,,, yet….. That said it sure looks interesting to me. I think they may have well hit a sweet spot. I’m looking forward to your review, Rob!!!!!!!!
Is that not a walnut stock with a pretty fair looking finish on it, no?
Those groups shown by Jim Chapman at 37 yds look pretty good to me. Hey, if this rig shoots with reasonable consistency, what’s not to like?
It’s light weight, easy to handle.
We know it is going to be moded and we’ll be able to get parts/support.
Complete pcp package for $379. Can’t complain about that. More I see and read about the Discovery the more it seems to say great value.
I think the guys in Europe will be pretty happy with it if they can get it for anywhere near what’s being published here.
2 cents worth. Haha 😆
You right Rob the have been a bunch of people bitchin…But thank God they did’nt pull the “let’s put our name on Chinese gun this time”…While I’m sure the super streaks are o.k. …It chaps my Ass to see a U.S. company spend more money overseas when production could go to Americans that need jobs….. So far the reports have been really fair..I’m sure that the test guns that were sent out for review, have been gone over with a fine tooth comb…Are they all gonna be as accurate as the test guns..I doubt it, but it’s a $250.00 gun who gives a shit…For those of us that cringe when we let our kids shoot the $800.00 Bsa or the $600.00 tuned talon, buy them one , put in thier hands, teach them how to use it…For those less fortunate than us, it gives them a chance to try pcp… I think it’s great and I think we’ll see more to come from crosman if this gun has great succes…
I dont see the gauge as a bite in the ass at all. I’ve heard of plenty of AirArms guns having leaks at the gauge. It’s just something that happens.
Same with overfilling. You fill the gun to whatever it likes. If you overfill, you will have valve lock.
Lots of folks being critical of this gun while forgetting that other than AirForce, there are no US PCP’s. I think Crosman is headed in the right direction by offering a low cost PCP.
Consider that a Steroid or PSP 392 that requires 14 pumps to be at full power is roughly the same price as this PCP that gets upwards of 30 shots.
I think if folks compare this gun to other PCP’s in the price range, they’ll find it to be a value….. oh wait.. there are NO PCP’s in this price range. My point exactly. The next step up in price is a B50… up from that is the Talons. If you look used or custom, you can find QB PCP conversions at that price, but for a production run gun… thats it.
I’ve got one coming. Am I expecting it to perform like my Euro PCP’s that cost 3 times as much? Of course not. Gotta keep expectations reasonable.
Chad, understand this whole post isnt directed at you. Folks have been coming down hard on this gun since it was announced and I dont quite know why. We bitch and moan about the how weak the US Dollar is when buying PCP’s but then bitch and moan about it when a US manufacturer makes them. Happened with the Talons and now happening with the Crosman.
On the Crossman website, they vaguely mention valve lock. Something to the effect of, “if your first shots don’t seem as loud as they should be, dry fire the gun a few times until the noise increases”. I’m paraphrasing, but you get the idea.
Another problem that is going to bite them in the ass is that built in guage. Tom Gaylord mentioned in his review that he had to fix that on the .22 before he could put it thru it’s paces.
All that said, that seems like a neat little rifle. It seems like it’s priced just high enough that we shouldn’t see a lot of foolishness out of unsupervised kids. I’d bet more kids get hurt with sub-$100 airguns than get hurt by those costing over $200. But I’m in Las Vegas right now, and I’m in a betting mood.
I’ll have to admit the thought has crossed my mind too….actually it can’t be to loud as it is only around 800 fps..If i turn my talon down to that level it is not much louder than your average airgun…177 at 900 to 1000 is no louder than a 1377 pumper…But barrell extensions are Kewllllll.
Well Walter, you’re right, it does look like a great little rifle! The numbers that you posted above are very good. As far as noise goes, I’ll just have to wait and see. I love my 392 but it has been on the noisy side from the first shot. But I love it and can’t ever see parting with it. The Discovery, especially with a walnut stock, looks like a great airgun too. Thanks again for the numbers.
I’ll probably end up getting one of those when the fx pump I have now goes out. It’s not in great shape, don’t know why, but it isn’t. If it does go out, I think I’ll get one of these things instead of just a pump. Make me feel better about it at least. 🙂
I don’t know about quiet, haven’t heard about single PCP thats quiet unshrouded. I do expect to see good numbers from it, and the price is right.
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Real velocity numbers from a PCP of similar proportions
January 18 2008 at 3:16 PM Glover, Walter (Login Voltar1)
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Response to Benji Disco chrono numbers
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Here are some numbers from a PCP I built for a fellow in Aug 06.
Using 22xx valve with one of my Delrin stems , CB breech, 2260 barrel, 145cc reservoir
14 grain Peak pellets fill pressure 2340psi, end pressure 1590psi 20 shots as follows
2340psi 1028fps
2290psi 1037fps
2250psi 1049fps
2215psi 1055fps
2180psi 1057fps
2150psi 1061fps
2115psi 1061fps
2075psi 1061fps
2040psi 1055fps
2000psi 1052fps
1980psi 1049fps
1940psi 1051fps
1905psi 1052fps
1860psi 1047fps
1830psi 1039fps
1780psi 1038fps
1750psi 1029fps
1705psi 1022fps
1680psi 1020fps
1630psi 1012fps
1590psi stop
This one was pleasantly quiet without a shroud or LDC so if the new Discovery performs or is tuned
it should be very similar to this.
Shooting 28 grains, 2400psi to 1705psi for 20 shots
2400 735
2350 740
2315 741
2290 749
2260 763
2230 741
2205 742
2180 769
2130 754
2105 768
2060 781
2040 782
2005 769
1975 782
1940 774
1905 788
1865 780
1830 786
1805 782
1750 783
1705psi stop
So this is the kinda string I hoped Tom would produce when doing the testing of the Discovery.
Quite sure once fellas get their hands on them strings of shots will appear.
Walter Glover
I think its going to be a nice little rig, with a ton of mods coming after it. Its going to convert many to HPA, who have stood in the shadows wondering what its like shooting a PCP. The 2000psi is a nice bonus as many with the 3000psi scuba know you don’t get many 3000psi fills from it. I’d consider one, as crosman guns are pretty easy to mod/work on. Won’t be long before the gun is making more then the advertised velocity. The shot spread from Gaylord, sounds like a pretty consistent little gun. Will be fun to tinker with.
Good Artcle and testing by Jim Chapman.
http://www.americanairgunhunter.com/benji_discovery.html
Looks pretty favorable. Looking at the groupings I was sort of surprised.
Be patient my brother, for good things are coming for this gun. I’m in the same boat with you (TOO LOUD). The good ole boys in the USA will sort this gun out and when it’s done, that gun will be like a mouse fart for the vary good price.
Pyramid rates it as a 4, medium-high. That’s too loud for my backyard.
An efficient PCP is not loud. No reason to worry about what is not.
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It isn’t very often that something like this comes along. And it is even more rare that the company that is developing it will actually listen to us, the end user. Crosman has been great to deal with for as long as I can remember. I like the Discovery, (although I think that they could have picked a better name), and I am thrilled that it is going to wear a walnut stock. But noise is a definite consideration with PCP guns. I believe that at this early stage of development, it is appropriate for us to share our experience with Crosman. My suggestion to them was meant as a positive, friendly one; not a bitch. When I spoke to the team, I first mentioned all of the things that I liked about the Discovery, (and there are many).
I am sure that I will find a way to finance another air gun that I may not need, (but my son does? 😀 ). I am concerned about just how long Discovery will be walnut stocked. The early 760’s had wooden stocks and metal receivers with a brass turn bolt. The 760 that I bought in the early 70’s had solid plastic stock and forearm, and a metal receiver. Now their hollow plastic that I don’t like at all. So, quick before they stop using walnut to increase their profits, I’ll buy one. That’s a vote of confidence in my book.