Bizill’s Taipan Veteran (Pic HEAVY! Don’t quote first post)
This thread is a work in progress but for now, a chitty video of my nerdy ass…
I have yet to mount my scope and what not so I’ll be updating this thread whenever the heck I feel like it. I don’t have too much to say just yet as it’s new to me. Quality seems very nice, though the finish isn’t top notch, but still nice. I suppose it depends on what one considers top notch. Regardless, it’s nice enough. The cocking lever is smooth and I was pulling on it harder than was necessary, not knowing it would be so fluid. Thank God for this thing called leverage. I like it better than cocking a bolt. Still wish the side lever was further up near the trigger vs in the rear, but I knew what I was getting into. You see, I had my eyes set on the Vulcan, so I made a compromise. I’m thinking that will be one of the only compromises, though.
I love that it’s got the 20moa rail built in. That way I can just use regular scope mounts and not expensive ones with adjustable moa drop. I’ve seen many, to include FX Impact that have fugly lookin’ machined picatinny rails but this Veteran has nice machining. No worries there.
BRB. Stupid ass Windows is forcing a shutdown and restart on me….damn it! K, I’m back, that was quick. Thank God for SSD’s. They make for quick boot times on the ‘ole laptop.
Anyway, the stock isn’t terrible, though now I’m thinking the black completely conceals the woodgrain. I pretty much knew that going in but damn it to hell, if I don’t have to have my black guns. The shaping and working of the stock are nicely done. Even and not lop-sided or anything. I really didn’t know what to expect there. So I’m happy. I will however need to mount a small picatinny rail to the fore guard. That’ll make working on it so much easier since I don’t have a gun vice.
Before I get onto more points I would like to quickly add that I attached my Donny Du Sumo for a quickie shot to test it and by God, I thought my Benjamin P-rod with Rocker1’s LDC was quiet in .22. This Veteran .25 is quieter IMHO stock but with the Sumo is that much more quiet! I really didn’t know what to expect as I thought the Prod was pretty damned quiet. With much more power on tap, AND to be more quiet…well, I’m tickled pink. :4:
Below is just a pic for reference of the Sumo next to my Rocker1 LDC for my Prod.
Of course the Taipan LDC 1/2-20 adapter from TalonTunes to be able to mount the Sumo…
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Provided that all the factors have been entered correctly in Chairgun, including atmospheric pressure, temperature, inclination and all the bells and whistles AND the ballistic factor of your pellet corresponds, then your theory seems OK.
If one of these factors is erroneous and maybe compensated by a second (third, fourth…) factor, then it’s hard to say which chrony’s off.
Easiest would be to have a second chrony at your place (maybe a fellow airgunner close by can help out) and compare two multishot strings (keeping all other factors same, such as ammunition, start pressure, shot count, wind, light,…) taking into account the accuracy of each Chrony (normally stated somewhere in the specs section of the manual).
Agreed Papa, here’s some of my insane logic I posted elsewhere….
I’m thinking my chrony has to be pretty accurate. How else would it have told me to go 50 clicks on my mildot scope and be right on? I’m shooting about 3 feet from my chrony, straight shot. Chairgun shows me 823 muzzle down to only 820 3 feet (1 yard) away. Like I said, Chairgun had me right on so I’m guessing Tony’s string sent with gun are possibly off? Like I said, she’s shooting like a dream but I still want to make sure my chrony is good to go, which I think it is.
Hi Bizill,
took a while thinking about before answering. Well, in my opinion, at altitude, a PCP should go faster rather than slower. Reason for that in my logic is that the pressure in your reservoir remains the same, springs and hammer for opening the valve remain the same, but outside (ambiant counter-)pressure is lower, which in my mind should result in higher pellet velocity.
For a springer the story is different, as it uses ambiant air, here velocity should go down.
Well, take it with a grain of salt, just the fruit of my thoughts, my :2cents:
I have my threads spanning across 3 or 4 AG websites to give and receive the most feedback.
I wanted to ask as I’ve been seeing my unmodified .25 Veteran shooting slower than most of the rest of you, could my chrony be off? Tony did the shot string before shipping and had me in the low 900’s fps and I chrony around 820fps. No way shipping from Florida to Arizona at 2,660′ altitude would change that much? Perhaps Tony shot it off regulation? I doubt it because mine didn’t drop off regulation till I was way lower in pressure than it arrived to my door. I may leave it where it is as it’s shooting SUPERBLY, but I don’t want to give myself false knowledge in my chrony’s capabilities going forward. I’ve also noticed my stock Prod shoots slower than most stock Prods out there. I really don’t wanna buy and return a chrony if I don’t have to.
Am I missing something here or is my chrony perhaps not accurate? This is my chrony, Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HTN5DTE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Grey area in my city, but it is more of a respect thing, or lack there of. I just knew I wanted out ASAP. I have been getting restless about getting out and hitting something 100 yards out. I was trying to hit pine cones at an 8 – 10 degree incline for a few shots but couldn’t tell where my misses were going so I gave up and turned my turrets back to zero. Not wanting to wait ’till the weekend I wanted to do something tonight! I took my 20yard zero with me, played with Chairgun and prayed it’d get me at least close, but really, it was about right on.
I haven’t seen any 100 yard shots yet with anyone’s Veteran so perhaps I’m the first to post up. Also keep in mind, this was in the dark. I can only imagine 1/2 MOA easily under normal circumstances. ETA: Though wind might fight me pretty hard. It was dead calm when I took those shots.
Church, Private property , Check your local laws on air guns.
Outside the city limits here( Texas) air guns are 100% legal to shoot any where you have permission ,
And even some towns like Midland 30 miles from me have no ordnance on air guns at all.
Mike
Okay people, easy MOA. I have been waiting to get out somewhere to hit 100 yards and haven’t done so until tonight. I was bored so I grabbed the target, Sig KILO2000 rangefinder and the Veteran and headed out to a church parking lot. That lot has 400 feet of level space so the 100 yards was ripe for the picking. Yes, it was late at night and nobody was around.
Conditions: 72 degrees out. Zero wind. 12% humidity. 2,696′ elevation. 100 yard ranged. UTG Recon Bipod set up on the back of my hard tonneau truck bed cover 3′ higher than target. 25.39gr JSB Exact Kings / 820fps. Zero at 20 yards. Chairgun app on Android told me 5 mildots or 50 clicks. 16X zoom. First Focal Plane Athlon Argos.
Being that I was carrying out a no-no I had to do this all within like 5 minutes span. Had my son run the target out as I metered him out to 100 yards. Target was placed near a parking lot light but I still had to turn the illuminated reticle on to see the crosshairs. Needless to say, not optimal conditions. I could just barely see the hits after I took the shot and had just enough light to get my crosshairs on the red bullseye.
Anyway, didn’t sit and camp and control breathing or concentrate that much. Standing position but got my arms up and rested nicely. 5 shot group with first four measuring 0.8275 center to center. That 5th shot I pulled as I started to get antsy as police officers like to take their paperwork breaks in that spot and I wanted out. We drove over to scoop up the target and it was better than what I thought it would be. Please don’t count that last shot.
This gun is more than capable. Think how well this group would be in daylight and on a rifle rest. My Lord, I think I’ll be having some good times with this airgun!!…
Tighten down the end cap with the pins…. then the shroud won’t spin.
Correct. The shroud isn’t prone to turn on its own so usually a snugged set screw is enough.
Hey this is kind of a dumb question, but I assume the set screw should be tight enough to prevent casual turning of the shroud once tightened right? Mine would just keep spinning in the clockwise direction and I assume I should tighten the set screw at the base reasonably tight to prevent this, correct?
I’m very interested in this. I’d like to get as many shots as possible at 35fpe or even 30fpe be my primary tuning parameter, then be able to turn it up to (whatever I get with hammer spring turned in all the way.. 45fpe? 50fpe?) as needed.
I was asked about my Athlon scope so I may as well respond here as well…Glass is clear enough. I haven’t done a box test on it yet. I do love the busy reticle. I have an SWFA HD 5-20×50 with amazing glass and I still enjoy looking through the glass of the Athlon. The turrets have hardly any tactile or audible feedback, aka, mushy. They don’t line up on every mark, but neither does my $1200 SWFA, something about not having the correct amount of splines. Maybe SWFA had it corrected in Japan, I bought mine like 10 years ago.I had a Centerpoint cheapie 4-16×50 on my prod and didn’t care for it and put a true holographic sight on it instead. Looking through the Athlon with my Veteran .25…feels right. So I hope that when I do a box test, things come out well. LIfetime warranty that they honor, but lots of honoring has been done so that scares me some. I get a good amount of chromatic abberation at full zoom and probably alot lower. I’ve had the thing sitting in my closet for months until I finally got something to put her on. The sunshade was extra, but worth it. It’s offered by Midway under the Athlon brand but possibly others have the same thread pattern, not sure.I used better than average rings as I don’t like to lap rings. I used Warne. They are steel, but I like them alot. Harder to mount than horizontal rings, but no biggie. So the short answer, I like my Athlon alot thus far.
Please forgive my haste, I just wanted to post pics up right away. A silicone gun cloth would have done wonders for the pics above. The uneven look in some pics is residual oil. I hope I didn’t steer anyone wrong.
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you can try to get some H&N FFTs, those are 20grain and similar quality to JSBs, that will raise your fps.
maybe thats what was used for test :rofl:
i use those, they are lot cheaper than JSBs, where i live anyway.